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milly
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Re: New RM offer

Post by milly »

Schiff wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:21
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:12
It would be wise to put the new offer to the membership, I'm afraid this is the best we are going to get.
To all the militants on the board you must remember we don't have the leverage we once had, we no longer have a monopoly and customers have other choices.
The very fact that customers have other choices is what will win this dispute for us if we stay strong.

What good will Thompson's proposed changes do if RM has no customers other than those obliged to use RM to send loss making letters?
That makes no sense!
milly
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Re: New RM offer

Post by milly »

77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:23
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:12
It would be wise to put the new offer to the membership, I'm afraid this is the best we are going to get.
To all the militants on the board you must remember we don't have the leverage we once had, we no longer have a monopoly and customers have other choices.
So many people on here talking of giving up just as the going gets tough ,
Simon will be loving this ,
If you do give up suck up all the crap he throws at you , without any complaints please .
It's not giving up, it's called being rational.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: New RM offer

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Can't see how "family friendly" can work in the future when the work starts to eventually arrive later at inward MCs (think it's a matter of when it start happening not if it'll start happening). The work will get processed later and therefore go out to DOs later
77SAMPOST77
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Re: New RM offer

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:30
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:23
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:12
It would be wise to put the new offer to the membership, I'm afraid this is the best we are going to get.
To all the militants on the board you must remember we don't have the leverage we once had, we no longer have a monopoly and customers have other choices.
So many people on here talking of giving up just as the going gets tough ,
Simon will be loving this ,
If you do give up suck up all the crap he throws at you , without any complaints please .
It's not giving up, it's called being rational.
So you want to be rational with someone who is Irrational like Simon , Good luck with that .
rambo1
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Re: New RM offer

Post by rambo1 »

Acca Dacca wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 23:13
If they did this they would need to somehow pair up the people who are using the 'family friendly' option

Having two people van sharing with completely different finish times wouldnt work.
Family friendly hr ain't going to happen. Too complicated to cover especially on a van share.
sledger
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Re: New RM offer

Post by sledger »

carry out next strike,keep pressure on,its really quite simple,hold youre nerve
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Re: New RM offer

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:36
Can't see how "family friendly" can work in the future when the work starts to eventually arrive later at inward MCs (think it's a matter of when it start happening not if it'll start happening). The work will get processed later and therefore go out to DOs later
Simple. Not every job in a DO is to prepare and deliver a certain number of streets, there are many different tasks and duties that can be changed to meet both the business and employees' concerns. Indeed Dos have been doing this since I joined 18 years ago.
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Re: New RM offer

Post by sledger »

milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:30
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:23
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:12
It would be wise to put the new offer to the membership, I'm afraid this is the best we are going to get.
To all the militants on the board you must remember we don't have the leverage we once had, we no longer have a monopoly and customers have other choices.
So many people on here talking of giving up just as the going gets tough ,
Simon will be loving this ,
If you do give up suck up all the crap he throws at you , without any complaints please .
It's not giving up, it's called being rational.
so youre idea of rational is bo++ocks to youre union workmates in parcelforce and fleet
milly
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Re: New RM offer

Post by milly »

sledger wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:20
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:30
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:23
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:12
It would be wise to put the new offer to the membership, I'm afraid this is the best we are going to get.
To all the militants on the board you must remember we don't have the leverage we once had, we no longer have a monopoly and customers have other choices.
So many people on here talking of giving up just as the going gets tough ,
Simon will be loving this ,
If you do give up suck up all the crap he throws at you , without any complaints please .
It's not giving up, it's called being rational.
so youre idea of rational is bo++ocks to youre union workmates in parcelforce and fleet
We are entering into the worst economic downturn in living memory and you think that we can win this dispute?
Members have lost hundreds of pounds that they can ill afford to lose.
All your tough talk counts for nothing if members lose their homes but I guess that's a sacrifice you're willing to make.
77SAMPOST77
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Re: New RM offer

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:28
sledger wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:20
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:30
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:23
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:12
It would be wise to put the new offer to the membership, I'm afraid this is the best we are going to get.
To all the militants on the board you must remember we don't have the leverage we once had, we no longer have a monopoly and customers have other choices.
So many people on here talking of giving up just as the going gets tough ,
Simon will be loving this ,
If you do give up suck up all the crap he throws at you , without any complaints please .
It's not giving up, it's called being rational.
so youre idea of rational is bo++ocks to youre union workmates in parcelforce and fleet
We are entering into the worst economic downturn in living memory and you think that we can win this dispute?
Members have lost hundreds of pounds that they can ill afford to lose.
All your tough talk counts for nothing if members lose their homes but I guess that's a sacrifice you're willing to make.
More than willing to make .
It is about doing the right thing ,
A sense of pride a sense of Justice and not willing to be someones slave Labour .
milly
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Re: New RM offer

Post by milly »

77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:36
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:28
sledger wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:20
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:30
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:23
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:12
It would be wise to put the new offer to the membership, I'm afraid this is the best we are going to get.
To all the militants on the board you must remember we don't have the leverage we once had, we no longer have a monopoly and customers have other choices.
So many people on here talking of giving up just as the going gets tough ,
Simon will be loving this ,
If you do give up suck up all the crap he throws at you , without any complaints please .
It's not giving up, it's called being rational.
so youre idea of rational is bo++ocks to youre union workmates in parcelforce and fleet
We are entering into the worst economic downturn in living memory and you think that we can win this dispute?
Members have lost hundreds of pounds that they can ill afford to lose.
All your tough talk counts for nothing if members lose their homes but I guess that's a sacrifice you're willing to make.
More than willing to make .
It is about doing the right thing ,
A sense of pride a sense of Justice and not willing to be someones slave Labour .
You're willing to see fellow members lose their homes?
:arrrghhh
walthmstowman
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Re: New RM offer

Post by walthmstowman »

A work colleague of mine was told this morning in a group huddle that if we go on strike tomorrow management will look to remove 130 jobs from our MC . How's that for a piece of classic Royal Mail bullying and intimidation.
77SAMPOST77
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Re: New RM offer

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:41
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:36
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:28
sledger wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:20
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:30
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:23
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:12
It would be wise to put the new offer to the membership, I'm afraid this is the best we are going to get.
To all the militants on the board you must remember we don't have the leverage we once had, we no longer have a monopoly and customers have other choices.
So many people on here talking of giving up just as the going gets tough ,
Simon will be loving this ,
If you do give up suck up all the crap he throws at you , without any complaints please .
It's not giving up, it's called being rational.
so youre idea of rational is bo++ocks to youre union workmates in parcelforce and fleet
We are entering into the worst economic downturn in living memory and you think that we can win this dispute?
Members have lost hundreds of pounds that they can ill afford to lose.
All your tough talk counts for nothing if members lose their homes but I guess that's a sacrifice you're willing to make.
More than willing to make .
It is about doing the right thing ,
A sense of pride a sense of Justice and not willing to be someones slave Labour .
You're willing to see fellow members lose their homes?
:arrrghhh
If that is what it takes for the greater good ,
Meanwhile you and others are prepared to stand by why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer ,
And what is all that childish banging your head against a wall nonsense about .
redlen
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Re: New RM offer

Post by redlen »

Or cold hard economic reality.

There has been no Christmas rush this year, that includes foreign mail. How are Royal Mail going to pay your wages if insufficient revenue is being generated?
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Re: New RM offer

Post by GRS »

77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:36
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:28
sledger wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 11:20
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:30
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:23
milly wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 10:12
It would be wise to put the new offer to the membership, I'm afraid this is the best we are going to get.
To all the militants on the board you must remember we don't have the leverage we once had, we no longer have a monopoly and customers have other choices.
So many people on here talking of giving up just as the going gets tough ,
Simon will be loving this ,
If you do give up suck up all the crap he throws at you , without any complaints please .
It's not giving up, it's called being rational.
so youre idea of rational is bo++ocks to youre union workmates in parcelforce and fleet
We are entering into the worst economic downturn in living memory and you think that we can win this dispute?
Members have lost hundreds of pounds that they can ill afford to lose.
All your tough talk counts for nothing if members lose their homes but I guess that's a sacrifice you're willing to make.
More than willing to make .
It is about doing the right thing ,
A sense of pride a sense of Justice and not willing to be someones slave Labour .
Am I correct in saying that you are willing to lose your house! Wow that is bizarre thinking and very extreme. Reading some of the stuff on here it’s almost like some have become brainwashed. If I hated my job as much as that I’d foxtrot oscar and getting something else . Not worth getting so eaten up with hate of something or someone to not be bothered by the consequences! It’s like some have lost sight that this is a job, just a job and become radicalised!