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Acca Dacca
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Re: New RM offer

Post by Acca Dacca »

If they did this they would need to somehow pair up the people who are using the 'family friendly' option

Having two people van sharing with completely different finish times wouldnt work.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
redlen
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Re: New RM offer

Post by redlen »

Was this not the offer previously rejected??

Gets posted in a Tory rag and people start salivating
norris9
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Re: New RM offer

Post by norris9 »

grchpo wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 20:37
10 days of strikes before Xmas, that equates to about £1000, I can't afford to lose that amount, how many can.
wow - u get a good wage!
norris9
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Re: New RM offer

Post by norris9 »

Acca Dacca wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 23:13
If they did this they would need to somehow pair up the people who are using the 'family friendly' option

Having two people van sharing with completely different finish times wouldnt work.
True - and how would that work when your 'family-friendly' partner is off work and all the reserves available start later.

It's not going to work and as I said - it's unfair.

Later working is dumb anyway - the amount of time we are going to be stuck in traffic will be ridiculous..... and they claim they want to be greener. Go figure!.

They will end up with owner-drivers driving around in absolute bangers delivering parcels in the same areas we are in delivering letters. You will have 2 vehicles going to the same location.....Royal Mail apparently want to be green....
teesdale
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Re: New RM offer

Post by teesdale »

Fight on. Individual branch strikes next year.
Simondavid
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Re: New RM offer

Post by Simondavid »

:cuppa Maybe 9% backdated to April all this 24 and 18 months try 12months it's still a pay cut with to many strings !!
twoloops
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Re: New RM offer

Post by twoloops »

Can’t say I’ve read much of the above & have ignored most of CWU rambles, I’m going all out to help Simon destroy Royal Mail, I’ve switched off, they will now get the minimum effort from me, tracked & two loops per day looks like the future, I can handle that, looked @ nursing home in my frame that’s not been out since last Thursday, there’s 15 odd hospital appointment letters & 7 birthday cards, can’t see them going out tomorrow & after the 2 strike days maybe Saturday? Could be Monday or Tuesday, could be dead before they receive them, used to be bothered, now I do not give a flying f**k, Simon do what you f***ing like it no longer matters, I’m sure I speak for 80 90% of the staff? f**k em, life’s to short.
ViperF
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Re: New RM offer

Post by ViperF »

grchpo wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 20:37
10 days of strikes before Xmas, that equates to about £1000, I can't afford to lose that amount, how many can.
Why not?

Food,
Utilities
Or
Xmas presents?
Revolutionary1
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Re: New RM offer

Post by Revolutionary1 »

Acca Dacca wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 23:13
If they did this they would need to somehow pair up the people who are using the 'family friendly' option

Having two people van sharing with completely different finish times wouldnt work.
That would mean a resign in my office as we have a huge amount of posties with children that need collecting from school who are paired up with people without.

If they were all partnered up together would the reserve who is covering ‘a family friendly’ worker’s day off then have to change their hours to match?

Can’t see this working somehow.
crimson king
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Re: New RM offer

Post by crimson king »

twoloops wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 00:02
Can’t say I’ve read much of the above & have ignored most of CWU rambles, I’m going all out to help Simon destroy Royal Mail, I’ve switched off, they will now get the minimum effort from me, tracked & two loops per day looks like the future, I can handle that, looked @ nursing home in my frame that’s not been out since last Thursday, there’s 15 odd hospital appointment letters & 7 birthday cards, can’t see them going out tomorrow & after the 2 strike days maybe Saturday? Could be Monday or Tuesday, could be dead before they receive them, used to be bothered, now I do not give a flying f**k, Simon do what you f***ing like it no longer matters, I’m sure I speak for 80 90% of the staff? f**k em, life’s to short.
:Applause

Speak for me. This is how I've felt since the lockdown shenanigans....
Sooner or later, a beat dog bites.
FilthyBloke
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Re: New RM offer

Post by FilthyBloke »

Being family friendly is a good idea. Allow more flexibility to those who need to be more flexible.
I can’t see the pay deal being increased much more. I think this is about as good as it gets.

I get one of the concerns about van sharing and if one of those needs to do the school run etc…
But van sharing has always been a bit hit or miss. Some folk can’t drive at all so get to wait about and some folk are just naturally slower.

But this new proposal is at least a positive after Mondays “no more talks” threat. I just hope the CWU take time to reflect and cancel the strikes this week.
datasaint
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Re: New RM offer

Post by datasaint »

FilthyBloke wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 02:10
I just hope the CWU take time to reflect and cancel the strikes this week.
Are you having a laugh? The last thing they should do is cancel any more strikes.

The new pay offer will come with a heap of strings attached anyway, so I doubt the union will agree to it anyway.
kazardaimenu
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Re: New RM offer

Post by kazardaimenu »

Give us all family friendly hours and we can start to talk…
Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: New RM offer

Post by Mickeybrowneyes »

twoloops wrote:
23 Nov 2022, 00:02
Can’t say I’ve read much of the above & have ignored most of CWU rambles, I’m going all out to help Simon destroy Royal Mail, I’ve switched off, they will now get the minimum effort from me, tracked & two loops per day looks like the future, I can handle that, looked @ nursing home in my frame that’s not been out since last Thursday, there’s 15 odd hospital appointment letters & 7 birthday cards, can’t see them going out tomorrow & after the 2 strike days maybe Saturday? Could be Monday or Tuesday, could be dead before they receive them, used to be bothered, now I do not give a flying f**k, Simon do what you f***ing like it no longer matters, I’m sure I speak for 80 90% of the staff? f**k em, life’s to short.
Just a thought, wouldn't it be an idea to prioritise the nursing home today and leave other loops. I understand it is frustrating and you are doing your job as instructed but surely you have a duty of care to prioritise that block now. Although Royal Mail do not care about the letters you can still rotate your loops so people don't miss hospital appointments. Nothing to do with me I know but some might be serious letters.
Bellaber
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Re: New RM offer

Post by Bellaber »

See you all on the picket line :nana