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Re: New RM offer

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https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article ... royal-mail

Postal strikes set to continue after union rejects ‘take-it-or-leave-it’ proposal from Royal Mail

POSTIES across Britain declared no confidence in Royal Mail boss Simon Thompson today as they prepare for more strike action over pay and working conditions later this week.

The Communication Workers Union (CWU) told the Morning Star that every meeting of workers it had organised unanimously supported the informal motion and condemned the way the privatised company is being managed.

The move came after the union rejected a “take-it-or-leave-it” proposal from senior managers.

The CWU national postal executive said it has made proposals to help resolve the increasingly bitter dispute, including an improved 18-month pay deal, a guarantee of no compulsory redundancies and a joint review of agreements and the relationship between the union and Royal Mail Group.

The firm’s workers, who first walked out in August, are set for more strikes tomorrow and Friday ahead of further industrial action next month, including on Christmas Eve.

A CWU spokesperson said: “Britain’s postal workers are hard-working, decent people — every day, they go the extra mile in keeping our country connected and safe.

“They don’t deserve to have their pay smashed, their conditions ripped up and their lives wrecked by Simon Thompson, who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

“It’s time Royal Mail understands that a few men at the top aren’t worth more than the loyalty of 115,000 workers.”

A company spokesman accused the union of making “several false and misleading claims about the detail of what we were proposing and launching personal attacks.

“We don’t believe this is the way to conduct serious negotiations.”

The spokesman confirmed that the business is still considering the union’s latest proposals.
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This article went online @ 18:17 tonight
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: New RM offer

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guardianangel wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:08
Thats not a no strings pay deal ,and we all want to finish early not just people with kids,lets not split the working hours and workforce,one for all and all for one,reject it immediately,i look after an elderly parent and need to finish early too,so we all finish early or none of us do.
I thought the days of finishing early had long gone? At least in our office they have. A couple of business walks finish time is 1pm but town duties are 2.30-3.15 depending on day and rurals an hr later. That's if you work to time. Mostly people are finishing between 3 and 5pm regularly if they finish duty.
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Re: New RM offer

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zz666 wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:19
Put me down for family friendly hours.
Do you have to produce a child for the dom to check to be able to apply for these special needs hrs?
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Re: New RM offer

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rambo1 wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:37
guardianangel wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:08
Thats not a no strings pay deal ,and we all want to finish early not just people with kids,lets not split the working hours and workforce,one for all and all for one,reject it immediately,i look after an elderly parent and need to finish early too,so we all finish early or none of us do.
I thought the days of finishing early had long gone? At least in our office they have. A couple of business walks finish time is 1pm but town duties are 2.30-3.15 depending on day and rurals an hr later. That's if you work to time. Mostly people are finishing between 3 and 5pm regularly if they finish duty.
I think they are talking about family friendly hours mentioned in the original post
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Re: New RM offer

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rambo1 wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:40
zz666 wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:19
Put me down for family friendly hours.
Do you have to produce a child for the dom to check to be able to apply for these special needs hrs?
I can lend you one.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: New RM offer

Post by aiden01 »

So which story is true daily telgraph or morning star online. maybe best to see what union tell us tommorow.
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Re: New RM offer

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POSTMAN wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:35
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article ... royal-mail

Postal strikes set to continue after union rejects ‘take-it-or-leave-it’ proposal from Royal Mail

POSTIES across Britain declared no confidence in Royal Mail boss Simon Thompson today as they prepare for more strike action over pay and working conditions later this week.

The Communication Workers Union (CWU) told the Morning Star that every meeting of workers it had organised unanimously supported the informal motion and condemned the way the privatised company is being managed.

The move came after the union rejected a “take-it-or-leave-it” proposal from senior managers.

The CWU national postal executive said it has made proposals to help resolve the increasingly bitter dispute, including an improved 18-month pay deal, a guarantee of no compulsory redundancies and a joint review of agreements and the relationship between the union and Royal Mail Group.

The firm’s workers, who first walked out in August, are set for more strikes tomorrow and Friday ahead of further industrial action next month, including on Christmas Eve.

A CWU spokesperson said: “Britain’s postal workers are hard-working, decent people — every day, they go the extra mile in keeping our country connected and safe.

“They don’t deserve to have their pay smashed, their conditions ripped up and their lives wrecked by Simon Thompson, who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

“It’s time Royal Mail understands that a few men at the top aren’t worth more than the loyalty of 115,000 workers.”

A company spokesman accused the union of making “several false and misleading claims about the detail of what we were proposing and launching personal attacks.

“We don’t believe this is the way to conduct serious negotiations.”

The spokesman confirmed that the business is still considering the union’s latest proposals.
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This article went online @ 18:17 tonight
It may have gone online tonight but it seems a few hours behind the DT article?
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Re: New RM offer

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Surreypostie wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:35
TopperGas wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:33
Grads75 wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:30
Old news
Can you post a link to where it's ever been suggested RM have offered 9% over 18 months?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... christmas/
That's tonight's article not the "old news" you suggest it was?
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Seems to me they're reporting old news.
Wait till tomorrow but don't hold your breath.
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Re: New RM offer

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POSTMAN wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:42
rambo1 wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:40
zz666 wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:19
Put me down for family friendly hours.
Do you have to produce a child for the dom to check to be able to apply for these special needs hrs?
I can lend you one.
As long as I can give it back lol.
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Re: New RM offer

Post by justanumber »

We was,will,never or have been given a inflation related pay rise. A wage rise is always welcome with it a must, must be that its backdated,but is that the deal breaker. Each and everyone has to face facts that we work in different times and the good 'ole days are a distant memory. We need i think rightly or wrongly our T & Cs are as if not more important long term, than a wage rise. We gain nothing but a few quid yet lose everything is something im sure the Union wont endorse. Long term job security is whats important. Any deal will come at a price it always has and we like always will still get shafted. But we keep our t&cs and we will survive.
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Re: New RM offer

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that will rival tech savvy competition from the likes of Amazon
Leave it on the doorstep in the rain Amazon? Who wants to rival that???

As for "tech" they don't offer their customers anything more than RM already do for delivery options
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Re: New RM offer

Post by datasaint »

This won't be a genuine offer, it's just RM doing it so the CWU look unreasonable when RM go the media and tell them we offered 9%!
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Re: New RM offer

Post by kookoo32 »

rambo1 wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:40
zz666 wrote:
22 Nov 2022, 21:19
Put me down for family friendly hours.
Do you have to produce a child for the dom to check to be able to apply for these special needs hrs?
Was wondering this myself. If so I'm in the market for a kid, preferably toilet trained. Seriously though I have no dependent children but I don't want to be out there until dark o'clock.
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Re: New RM offer

Post by norris9 »

The later working is the worst part of it for me and what makes it even worse is they want to allow people who pick up their kids from school to be able to start earlier and finish earlier....

That's simply not fair on everyone else. So you can go and enjoy your afternoon if you have kids? The rest of us have to work until what, 6pm? work in the dark, cold and then drive home in rush hour!!!!


No to later working!!!!


Also no backdated pay!!!!???? why?


REJECT THIS OFFER!