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Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
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grchpo
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
Why would they be made compulsory redundant when there are more than enough willing to go voluntarily
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
Has anyone considered that they may allow everyone expressing a wish to leave the company to go and replace any excess over 10,000 with people on inferior terms and conditions?
It's a nuclear option because there would be a period of disruption but it would obviously accelerate RMs plan to resize the business.
It's a nuclear option because there would be a period of disruption but it would obviously accelerate RMs plan to resize the business.
Only dead fish follow the current
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wandle
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
Has anyone forgotten Andy Furey revealed on Facebook Live that Royal Mail had to disclose that they use 11,200 agency workers across the business on a typical day?
They haven’t said 10,000 JOBS are to go.
They said 10,000 full-time equivalent (FTE) hours must be cut by August 2023.
They could achieve that by ceasing to use agency staff.
But it’s obvious they’d rather pay people to leave the business and just backfill with agency, who can (and do, in my office) get sent home if work levels don’t match the forecast. Or, take on new starters on inferior T&Cs
They haven’t said 10,000 JOBS are to go.
They said 10,000 full-time equivalent (FTE) hours must be cut by August 2023.
They could achieve that by ceasing to use agency staff.
But it’s obvious they’d rather pay people to leave the business and just backfill with agency, who can (and do, in my office) get sent home if work levels don’t match the forecast. Or, take on new starters on inferior T&Cs
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walthmstowman
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
Those willing to go might be refused if in DO's already understaffed . I have always thought they will first go after people in MC's due to the introduction of modern technology like the PSM
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Leedspostie29
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑20 Nov 2022, 21:01Has anyone considered that they may allow everyone expressing a wish to leave the company to go and replace any excess over 10,000 with people on inferior terms and conditions?
It's a nuclear option because there would be a period of disruption but it would obviously accelerate RMs plan to resize the business.
I would love that to be true and get told by boss in a couple of weeks that anyone wanting VR can have it, would be best Xmas ever getting out of this s**t show of a job with some money in pocket when want to leave anyway..
In reality though only 1 or 2 people most offices will get it, the most useless, old, lazy postman will get £25k to do one after years of doing f all....The absolute incompetent are rewarded here at royal mail.
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matthew68
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
I don’t think it matters if your office is understaffed or not they will look at numbers and if other office’s are not understaffed will look at moving them, let’s face it the way it’s going I think they want as many current staff gone as possible so they can bring in agency and newbie’s on lesser wages and conditions thus saving long term. If they have say 10000 volunteers by end of November they will probably let them all go in January and blame the strike for losing business
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guardianangel
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
I hope so because we just don't get on.
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postieblueshirt
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
When you go to the preference exercise it asks if you are willing to move so regardless how your office is staffed they will be moving people between offices.also your d.o may be understaffed for the way it currently run but with removal of parcels etc you won't need anywhere near the amount of staff you currently have.
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CRIBMAD
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
disgusting comment ! i bet you are popular in your office !Leedspostie29 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2022, 21:17Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑20 Nov 2022, 21:01Has anyone considered that they may allow everyone expressing a wish to leave the company to go and replace any excess over 10,000 with people on inferior terms and conditions?
It's a nuclear option because there would be a period of disruption but it would obviously accelerate RMs plan to resize the business.
I would love that to be true and get told by boss in a couple of weeks that anyone wanting VR can have it, would be best Xmas ever getting out of this s**t show of a job with some money in pocket when want to leave anyway..
In reality though only 1 or 2 people most offices will get it, the most useless, old, lazy postman will get £25k to do one after years of doing f all....The absolute incompetent are rewarded here at royal mail.
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SW Postie
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- Joined: 28 Aug 2018, 12:16
- Gender: Male
Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
I believe that this may be the route they take too!!!Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑20 Nov 2022, 21:01Has anyone considered that they may allow everyone expressing a wish to leave the company to go and replace any excess over 10,000 with people on inferior terms and conditions?
It's a nuclear option because there would be a period of disruption but it would obviously accelerate RMs plan to resize the business.
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Surreypostie
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
Bloody hope so, adios, I am history if so.SW Postie wrote: ↑21 Nov 2022, 19:42I believe that this may be the route they take too!!!Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑20 Nov 2022, 21:01Has anyone considered that they may allow everyone expressing a wish to leave the company to go and replace any excess over 10,000 with people on inferior terms and conditions?
It's a nuclear option because there would be a period of disruption but it would obviously accelerate RMs plan to resize the business.
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Leedspostie29
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
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Leedspostie29
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Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
Leedspostie29 wrote: ↑21 Nov 2022, 21:15I am quite popular actually :) And sorry if I hit a nerve lolCRIBMAD wrote: ↑21 Nov 2022, 16:14disgusting comment ! i bet you are popular in your office !Leedspostie29 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2022, 21:17Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑20 Nov 2022, 21:01Has anyone considered that they may allow everyone expressing a wish to leave the company to go and replace any excess over 10,000 with people on inferior terms and conditions?
It's a nuclear option because there would be a period of disruption but it would obviously accelerate RMs plan to resize the business.
I would love that to be true and get told by boss in a couple of weeks that anyone wanting VR can have it, would be best Xmas ever getting out of this s**t show of a job with some money in pocket when want to leave anyway..
In reality though only 1 or 2 people most offices will get it, the most useless, old, lazy postman will get £25k to do one after years of doing f all....The absolute incompetent are rewarded here at royal mail.
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CHUCKYPIG
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 132
- Joined: 07 Apr 2020, 21:01
- Gender: Male
Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
Oh well maybe good chance of getting £xx,xxx, maybe not. Like anything out of my control I will expect the worst
but hope for the best 
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sledger
- Posts: 107
- Joined: 26 Nov 2012, 21:31
- Gender: Male
Re: Redundancy - does the DOM decide?
every post i read on this thread and others amaze me that the strike numbers are not 100%,make no mistake a job in royal mail will not be worth a toss,and this is just the start.