While yer here, mind answering my question pleaseL8Hatter wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 18:37If by this charmless post, you mean Thompson has pretty much played the union like a fiddle, then yes.CRIBMAD wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 17:08L8Hatter wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 16:56And Thompson said yesterday that they will walk away from talks if further strikes are announced, which of course, is exactly what the union then does. The previous strikes achieved very little, if anything. The only result of the two weeks of 'intense' negotiations, was a plea to be renationalised. These strikes won't make the company change their position. It must be blindingly clear to everyone now that the changes are coming no matter how much we stamp our feet about it?Surreypostie wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 20:08No idea, whenever we are in dispute people shout strike at christmas, we need to strike in december blah blah, well here we are and he hasn't budged an inch and is ploughing on, this man is a different beast. I only know what I hear people say to me, they are worried, they have bills to pay, I will strike one day a week until hell freezes over, I can afford it and quite like having an extra day off a week, but there are many people much younger that need the overtime to just survive, to lose that and then to be hit with all these days, many will fold and I don't blame them, in their situation I would fold. I'm looking to get out anyway so I have signed up for the VR, I won't get it but if offered it I am looking at about 27k. Yes please and off I go skipping into the sunset.jbo5066 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 20:00Understand your point but what else was the CWU supposed to do after RM's antics today ... Think this is the unions last throw of the dice!Surreypostie wrote: ↑17 Nov 2022, 19:31I guarantee, people will cross the line, Part timers will not lose 4 days pay in one week. A lot of full timers won't.
So now all the strikes are achieving is dividing us into those who can afford it and would quite like a bit more extra time off. And those who can't, especially after the 'rolling strikes', and now have little or no motivation to lose even more money, as we're obviously not to going to gain anything from it.![]()
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If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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6 days CWU really are weak as piss
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Yes , come in for thirty pieces of silver and then watch your terms and conditions go down the plug hole if we lose this dispute.
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6 days is not enough in December. Won't make a bit of difference. They aren't even concerned we're striking black friday, so not going to care about the odd day here and there in December. The inability to do rolling strikes killed this dispute.
This is the last month we've got to potentially save our jobs and the company. No point striking 23rd and 24th as it'll be too late then. We're just losing money for no end result.
I'll keep striking but honestly think because this is all or nothing, we should be all out striking the whole of December. I know people say they can't afford it but we all knew it was coming months ago. Could have done overtime months ago to save up funds for this. This realistically is the last 4 weeks we have.
Maybe I'm being unrealistic but really think 2 days a week won't do enough and feel like running out of time.
This is the last month we've got to potentially save our jobs and the company. No point striking 23rd and 24th as it'll be too late then. We're just losing money for no end result.
I'll keep striking but honestly think because this is all or nothing, we should be all out striking the whole of December. I know people say they can't afford it but we all knew it was coming months ago. Could have done overtime months ago to save up funds for this. This realistically is the last 4 weeks we have.
Maybe I'm being unrealistic but really think 2 days a week won't do enough and feel like running out of time.
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What power? If we were that strong we would have already received a decent offer, if ST lets next week's strikes go ahead we need to forget anymore daily strikes as they are simply a waste of time and either start an immediate all out strike or just accept what ever offer is now on the table.guardianangel wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 20:25![]()
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So true this,lets bring Thompson down and show this country what a bunch of s**t bags these Royal Mail bosses are,lets all stand together and win together.
Anyway what is the present position on the talks has ST, as he threatened, now walked away or are further talks taking place before next week''s strikes?
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I think he said the talks would end if there was further IA, not the threat of further IA.
It seems we still have a few days before Armagideon Time.
Are they meeting over the weekend? Anyone know?
It seems we still have a few days before Armagideon Time.
Are they meeting over the weekend? Anyone know?
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Doing tons of overtime to help them clear the office is a bit counter intuitive to then going on strike for a month. If you really wanted to hurt them (and by consequence your pocket), you'd be working to time AND striking when asked.carlosevenos wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 20:136 days is not enough in December. Won't make a bit of difference. They aren't even concerned we're striking black friday, so not going to care about the odd day here and there in December. The inability to do rolling strikes killed this dispute.
This is the last month we've got to potentially save our jobs and the company. No point striking 23rd and 24th as it'll be too late then. We're just losing money for no end result.
I'll keep striking but honestly think because this is all or nothing, we should be all out striking the whole of December. I know people say they can't afford it but we all knew it was coming months ago. Could have done overtime months ago to save up funds for this. This realistically is the last 4 weeks we have.
Maybe I'm being unrealistic but really think 2 days a week won't do enough and feel like running out of time.
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I'm sick and tired of hearing all the whinging cowards, saying that scabby lip Thompson has played the union and all this f'ing nonsense the union is weak and blah blah, I'm proud of the action this union has taken and my small part in it, we are the union, its not some faceless organisation, its us, all of us standing together, it's not dave ward or any other rep, the union is each and every person in it, if " the union ", is weak its cos of all the guvnor asskissers on here saying we're doomed its not working, this was always gonna be a bitter fight and a long one, I support the union that's my colleagues who stand on the picket lines, who stick their heads above the parapet and become reps at all levels and yes the negotiation team trying to get us a decent deal, it's time to put up or shut up, I stand with everyone who doesn't want to shut up and if you're one of the whingers you've got an out now take their crap VR deal and do one, solidarity is power
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I agree secondedcod wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 23:55I'm sick and tired of hearing all the whinging cowards, saying that scabby lip Thompson has played the union and all this f'ing nonsense the union is weak and blah blah, I'm proud of the action this union has taken and my small part in it, we are the union, its not some faceless organisation, its us, all of us standing together, it's not dave ward or any other rep, the union is each and every person in it, if " the union ", is weak its cos of all the guvnor asskissers on here saying we're doomed its not working, this was always gonna be a bitter fight and a long one, I support the union that's my colleagues who stand on the picket lines, who stick their heads above the parapet and become reps at all levels and yes the negotiation team trying to get us a decent deal, it's time to put up or shut up, I stand with everyone who doesn't want to shut up and if you're one of the whingers you've got an out now take their crap VR deal and do one, solidarity is power
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All this hero talk may make you feel important in your own head but REALITY is a little different. Dave ward & co have pretty much stated they have been led up the garden path & it's clear as day they were duped by that supposed "10 day negotiation period".cod wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 23:55I'm sick and tired of hearing all the whinging cowards, saying that scabby lip Thompson has played the union and all this f'ing nonsense the union is weak and blah blah, I'm proud of the action this union has taken and my small part in it, we are the union, its not some faceless organisation, its us, all of us standing together, it's not dave ward or any other rep, the union is each and every person in it, if " the union ", is weak its cos of all the guvnor asskissers on here saying we're doomed its not working, this was always gonna be a bitter fight and a long one, I support the union that's my colleagues who stand on the picket lines, who stick their heads above the parapet and become reps at all levels and yes the negotiation team trying to get us a decent deal, it's time to put up or shut up, I stand with everyone who doesn't want to shut up and if you're one of the whingers you've got an out now take their crap VR deal and do one, solidarity is power
Look at the stance the union took at the beginning. It was a no strings pay rise. Now it's so bad they are asking for deals that last 12+ months, asking Royal mail to not give compulsory redundancies. Basically picking up scraps for us.
Not blaming the union. Rm have the power in their hands to push things through. The union are trying their best but people are starting to see it's all just words now. RM will get their plans through, whether it's 2023 or 2024. It will happen & if you think otherwise your deluding yourself.
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With that degree of negativity you should be chancellor of the exchequer more tax please pretty please!Ppat98 wrote: ↑19 Nov 2022, 01:24All this hero talk may make you feel important in your own head but REALITY is a little different. Dave ward & co have pretty much stated they have been led up the garden path & it's clear as day they were duped by that supposed "10 day negotiation period".cod wrote: ↑18 Nov 2022, 23:55I'm sick and tired of hearing all the whinging cowards, saying that scabby lip Thompson has played the union and all this f'ing nonsense the union is weak and blah blah, I'm proud of the action this union has taken and my small part in it, we are the union, its not some faceless organisation, its us, all of us standing together, it's not dave ward or any other rep, the union is each and every person in it, if " the union ", is weak its cos of all the guvnor asskissers on here saying we're doomed its not working, this was always gonna be a bitter fight and a long one, I support the union that's my colleagues who stand on the picket lines, who stick their heads above the parapet and become reps at all levels and yes the negotiation team trying to get us a decent deal, it's time to put up or shut up, I stand with everyone who doesn't want to shut up and if you're one of the whingers you've got an out now take their crap VR deal and do one, solidarity is power
Look at the stance the union took at the beginning. It was a no strings pay rise. Now it's so bad they are asking for deals that last 12+ months, asking Royal mail to not give compulsory redundancies. Basically picking up scraps for us.
Not blaming the union. Rm have the power in their hands to push things through. The union are trying their best but people are starting to see it's all just words now. RM will get their plans through, whether it's 2023 or 2024. It will happen & if you think otherwise your deluding yourself.
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Instead of trying to be funny, what exactly did I say that you didn't agree with?