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WTF is going on

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1560loopsayear
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by 1560loopsayear »

rambo1 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 14:52
Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 13:29
norris9 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 12:51
I could have agreed it by now....

9% pay rise
Sunday working, but will be ~1 in every 4 weeks.
5 Day mail service Mon-Fri.
Saturday and Sunday become parcel only delivery days.
Due to going down to a 5 day mail service, but working Sundays....we'd still need to 'lose' some staff. (These have probably already left - seeing as we aren't recruiting new staff whilst people are leaving).


Royal Mail get their Sunday working and have less staff to pay. We get our pay rise without a ridiculous amount of change that would have probably led us all to leaving the company sooner rather than later.
Said it before and will say it again

Thank the Lord you aren’t in the unions negotiations team
Think you'll find that'll be a better deal than the CWU agree to, so maybe they should be on the negotiation team. ?
I'd settle for the above...sadly I think we'll still be delivering junk mail post 5pm in the mid winter and they'll still want to have us working less hours in the so called 'quiet season'...banking them and working till we drop dead during silly season.
Acca Dacca
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by Acca Dacca »

rambo1 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 14:52
Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 13:29
norris9 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 12:51
I could have agreed it by now....

9% pay rise
Sunday working, but will be ~1 in every 4 weeks.
5 Day mail service Mon-Fri.
Saturday and Sunday become parcel only delivery days.
Due to going down to a 5 day mail service, but working Sundays....we'd still need to 'lose' some staff. (These have probably already left - seeing as we aren't recruiting new staff whilst people are leaving).


Royal Mail get their Sunday working and have less staff to pay. We get our pay rise without a ridiculous amount of change that would have probably led us all to leaving the company sooner rather than later.
Said it before and will say it again

Thank the Lord you aren’t in the unions negotiations team
Think you'll find that'll be a better deal than the CWU agree to, so maybe they should be on the negotiation team. ?
Wrong

The CWU wont be agreeing to reducing the USO to 5 days a week right now ( needs government to do that anyway )
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
CRIBMAD
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by CRIBMAD »

rambo1 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 14:48
Surreypostie wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 11:48
guardianangel wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 09:15
What is happening
Well... sitting out with a nice cold beer in the sun in the canaries.
......... whilst looking at royal mail chat.........PUT YOUR PHONE DOWN and enjoy your holiday FFS.
just what i was thinking how SAD !
yellowbelly
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by yellowbelly »

rambo1 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 14:46
grchpo wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 10:11
How/Why can you talk for 7 days. This is what we want, this is what you want, let's sort it , it shouldn't take 7 days
They've got that pallet of biscuits and tea bags to get through, they'll be on chocolate digestives or hob nobs for the last day :crazy:
Nah, they'd have gone the first few days, it's down to the broken 'Nice' and plain digestives now, that's probably why it's taking
this long.....
Chitchat
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by Chitchat »

I thought we would have heard something today?
chickenwittle
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by chickenwittle »

norris9 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 12:51
I could have agreed it by now....

9% pay rise
Sunday working, but will be ~1 in every 4 weeks.
5 Day mail service Mon-Fri.
Saturday and Sunday become parcel only delivery days.
Due to going down to a 5 day mail service, but working Sundays....we'd still need to 'lose' some staff. (These have probably already left - seeing as we aren't recruiting new staff whilst people are leaving).


Royal Mail get their Sunday working and have less staff to pay. We get our pay rise without a ridiculous amount of change that would have probably led us all to leaving the company sooner rather than later.
It’s a no from me.
Rommagic
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by Rommagic »

Pec meeting at 10.30 tomorrow?.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by Woody Guthrie »

Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 15:38
The CWU wont be agreeing to reducing the USO to 5 days a week right now ( needs government to do that anyway )
It's not part of the remit of the CWU to agree to a change in the USO.
They have a voice like us all and can make some noise but they don't have a veto... but yes it does need a (surprisingly small) change of legislation which with the wind behind you could be done in a couple of days.

Thankfully the government is busy with its own shitshow right now.
Only dead fish follow the current
justanumber
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by justanumber »

Find out soon enough maybe....7pm statement apparently according to Royalmail chat facebook
Rommagic
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by Rommagic »

justanumber wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 17:23
Find out soon enough maybe....7pm statement apparently according to Royalmail chat facebook
Think that's a joke.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by Woody Guthrie »

justanumber wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 17:23
Find out soon enough maybe....7pm statement apparently according to Royalmail chat facebook
Think that might be a wind up.
Nothing official at the moment.
Only dead fish follow the current
woofwoof
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by woofwoof »

Looks like someone sold £4 million worth of shares at 16:35, must be going well
wacko74
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by wacko74 »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 17:21
Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 15:38
The CWU wont be agreeing to reducing the USO to 5 days a week right now ( needs government to do that anyway )
It's not part of the remit of the CWU to agree to a change in the USO.
They have a voice like us all and can make some noise but they don't have a veto... but yes it does need (a surprisingly small) change of legislation which with the wind behind you could be done in a couple of days.

Thankfully the government is busy with its own shitshow right now.
Why ''thankfully''?

Every single day that the USO continues in it's current form the more and more money RM are losing and the harder it is for them to transform into an efficient and profitable parcels company.. any postie who wants the USO to remain untouched is either an idiot or just a selfish sod who wants to protect their current personal cushy little number and doesn't care less about he long term viability of the company or the future job prospects of the workforce.

Whenever I hear posties regurgitating the union mantra about ''protecting the service'' that the USO provides it's enough to make me hope that VESA or someone else does take over the company and TUPE them onto lower pay and much reduced T&C's
BigSacks
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by BigSacks »

wacko74 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 17:35
Woody Guthrie wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 17:21
Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 15:38
The CWU wont be agreeing to reducing the USO to 5 days a week right now ( needs government to do that anyway )
It's not part of the remit of the CWU to agree to a change in the USO.
They have a voice like us all and can make some noise but they don't have a veto... but yes it does need (a surprisingly small) change of legislation which with the wind behind you could be done in a couple of days.

Thankfully the government is busy with its own shitshow right now.
Why ''thankfully''?

Every single day that the USO continues in it's current form the more and more money RM are losing and the harder it is for them to transform into an efficient and profitable parcels company.. any postie who wants the USO to remain untouched is either an idiot or just a selfish sod who wants to protect their current personal cushy little number and doesn't care less about he long term viability of the company or the future job prospects of the workforce.

Whenever I hear posties regurgitating the union mantra about ''protecting the service'' that the USO provides it's enough to make me hope that VESA or someone else does take over the company and TUPE them onto lower pay and much reduced T&C's
Easy to say when you don’t even work for the company.
jbo5066
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Re: WTF is going on

Post by jbo5066 »

wacko74 wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 17:35

Whenever I hear posties regurgitating the union mantra about ''protecting the service'' that the USO provides it's enough to make me hope that VESA or someone else does take over the company and TUPE them onto lower pay and much reduced T&C's
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