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What are the strike dates now?

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k979aaa
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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clashcityrocker wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 15:02
jbo5066 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 14:30
This is probably a stupid question, but if the rolling strikes were cancelled on a technicality, what's to stop the union fixing the technicality and announcing rolling strikes in December?
Didn't Andy say it was virtually impossible to have the necessary information 100% accurate.
Was it pointless announcing the rolling strikes if they knew they would be challenged?
Thing is people move die or become managers or just leave we as a union rely upon info from RM about service length for seniority and leave allocation this is not something that the employer should use highly paid lawyers/barristers for! Who by the way got 15% for well they found the money for them did they not when they are screaming poverty!
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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They need to announce an all out full week strike ASAP
Its the last chance or we're fininshed :Boo hoo!
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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qwerty2 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 15:42
They need to announce an all out full week strike ASAP
Its the last chance or we're fininshed :Boo hoo!
Agreed.

They should have done it off the back of this announcement today to show the membership they were serious and weren't going to be dissuaded by RM's legal challenge.
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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The fact rm challenged the strike action means they weren't confident of reaching any agreement.
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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Waste of time, being led into deep water by a clueless cwu and once they leave us out there, Thompson will gleefully stand on our heads. Also side not the head of communications guy is either the most annoying man alive or he’s worked out exactly how to push my buttons!
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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zz666 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 16:11
The fact rm challenged the strike action means they weren't confident of reaching any agreement.
exactly my thoughts 100%.
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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We have had several PE meetings over the last few days including today. It was not possible to also agree further strike dates to replace the functional action and throughout September.

We are meeting on Tuesday to discuss and agree a new program of action naming dates after the 14th November and throughout December.

In terms of functional action and the threat of a challenge it concerned only an hand full of sites and only a few hundred members out of 115 thousand. However the process is that Royal Mail could have asked a judge to award an interim injunction on both ballots until a full hearing in a few weeks time. The Postal Executive was not prepared to risk both ballots and therefore after advice from our lawyers we stood down the functional action. On Friday In expectation of a legal challenge the Postal Executive agreed the back stop everyone taking strike action on 12th and 14th November.
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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Thompson can't even bother to turn up to some ACAS meetings.
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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Garbage we need some honesty about what is going on in these meetings. If it’s nothing we need to stop dragging out heels and pandering
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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Funny how the strike days hardly get mentioned in the media now but as soon as RM get one over on us - surprise
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63446176
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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Martin Walsh wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 16:19
We have had several PE meetings over the last few days including today. It was not possible to also agree further strike dates to replace the functional action and throughout September.

We are meeting on Tuesday to discuss and agree a new program of action naming dates after the 14th November and throughout December.

In terms of functional action and the threat of a challenge it concerned only an hand full of sites and only a few hundred members out of 115 thousand. However the process is that Royal Mail could have asked a judge to award an interim injunction on both ballots until a full hearing in a few weeks time. The Postal Executive was not prepared to risk both ballots and therefore after advice from our lawyers we stood down the functional action. On Friday In expectation of a legal challenge the Postal Executive agreed the back stop everyone taking strike action on 12th and 14th November.
so is the 25th and the 28th not strike days now either ? and what about the 2nd Dec ? any chance of telling the members whats going on and is there any chance the company can do the same to stop any future strikes ,?
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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Martin Walsh wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 16:19
We have had several PE meetings over the last few days including today. It was not possible to also agree further strike dates to replace the functional action and throughout September.

We are meeting on Tuesday to discuss and agree a new program of action naming dates after the 14th November and throughout December.

In terms of functional action and the threat of a challenge it concerned only an hand full of sites and only a few hundred members out of 115 thousand. However the process is that Royal Mail could have asked a judge to award an interim injunction on both ballots until a full hearing in a few weeks time. The Postal Executive was not prepared to risk both ballots and therefore after advice from our lawyers we stood down the functional action. On Friday In expectation of a legal challenge the Postal Executive agreed the back stop everyone taking strike action on 12th and 14th November.
So who made the mess martin how did cwu get it so wrong.
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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aiden01 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 17:09
Martin Walsh wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 16:19
We have had several PE meetings over the last few days including today. It was not possible to also agree further strike dates to replace the functional action and throughout September.

We are meeting on Tuesday to discuss and agree a new program of action naming dates after the 14th November and throughout December.

In terms of functional action and the threat of a challenge it concerned only an hand full of sites and only a few hundred members out of 115 thousand. However the process is that Royal Mail could have asked a judge to award an interim injunction on both ballots until a full hearing in a few weeks time. The Postal Executive was not prepared to risk both ballots and therefore after advice from our lawyers we stood down the functional action. On Friday In expectation of a legal challenge the Postal Executive agreed the back stop everyone taking strike action on 12th and 14th November.
So who made the mess martin how did cwu get it so wrong.
Utter laughing stock, no wonder they don’t get in the room with them
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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Angst should be directed towards simple simon I think.
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Re: What are the strike dates now?

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zz666 wrote:
30 Oct 2022, 16:11
The fact rm challenged the strike action means they weren't confident of reaching any agreement.

But also that they are not “fine” with strikes going ahead and mail not being delivered.
This is also a positive thing.


I’d also suggest that people should maybe take a step back and realise that these things will always have to-ing and fro-ing and that those wanting a team of Philadelphia lawyers to make sure everything is 100% watertight 100% of the time may want to be a bit more realistic in their expectations of what they get for 4 quid a week.