LTB 419/22 - ROYAL MAIL GROUP NATIONAL DISPUTES - Following an invitation from ACAS, we can now confirm that the CWU and Royal Mail have agreed to engage with ACAS facilitation

[Rommagic]

So a pay rise must include back pay and a lump sum because strikes have made us all worse off but better then accepting a poor deal.

[Woody Guthrie]

There are many political and conspiracy theory threads on here.
Would it be too much to ask people not to hijack a thread on the strikes with geopolitical theories?

Like it or not the reason we want a significant payrise has everything to do with Geopolitics.
A shortage of energy means high inflation.

Fine.
Start a new thread about the implications of geopolitics on collective bargaining but most people reading this thread would prefer not to have to sift through pages of mostly primary school level simplistic opining lifted straight from some shady website.

It's mostly pseudo intellectual bullshit.

[milly]

There are many political and conspiracy theory threads on here.
Would it be too much to ask people not to hijack a thread on the strikes with geopolitical theories?

Like it or not the reason we want a significant payrise has everything to do with Geopolitics.
A shortage of energy means high inflation.

Fine.
Start a new thread about the implications of geopolitics on collective bargaining but most people reading this thread would prefer not to have to sift through pages of mostly primary school level simplistic opining lifted straight from some shady website.

It's mostly pseudo intellectual bullshit.

Which of my posts are "pseudo intellectual bullshit" as you call it?
Energy is an input cost for all economic activity and impacts our current dispute.
Is suspect you have no cogent arguments so you resort to denigration.

[chrisj]

So we now have our British Obama! And nothing changed: very quick to recognise Jerusalem as capital of Israel (Australia just changed their minds)
* Quick to parrot the same line as Boris and Liz - it is all because of Putin's war... blah blah

Why do they call it Putin's war but when the West/NATO invade, it is divine intervention sanctioned by the whole world and according to 'rule-based order) (Order of the Imperial US of A).

So energy prices and food distribution networks and chain is affected by a conflict between just 2 countries. The same Russia that we only take 3% of their stuff and grains from Ukraine that we don't really really need; except for our almost non-existent Agric sector?

Good luck to him. But folks should not expect anything to change - if anything, Austerity 2.0 will be even harder! The Union's can forget it. And by the time of the general election, Labour will not win a landslide because their policies are the same and Tories will have got their acts together and the usual bribery here and there before a general election....

Can you go away with this nonsense please.

I want to talk about the issues around our strike and not this gibberish.

You dont have to respond! It is also part of the narrative because so e people here think a Labour government will save the Union's or even absurdly think they will renationalise Royal Mail.

There is not much going on about the Strikes except the usual scaremongering that you will be working till forever in the dark... Pipe down, each to their own.

[chrisj]

There are many political and conspiracy theory threads on here.
Would it be too much to ask people not to hijack a thread on the strikes with geopolitical theories?

Like it or not the reason we want a significant payrise has everything to do with Geopolitics.
A shortage of energy means high inflation.

Fine.
Start a new thread about the implications of geopolitics on collective bargaining but most people reading this thread would prefer not to have to sift through pages of mostly primary school level simplistic opining lifted straight from some shady website.

It's mostly pseudo intellectual bullshit.

Which of my posts are "pseudo intellectual bullshit" as you call it?
Energy is an input cost for all economic activity and impacts our current dispute.
Is suspect you have no cogent arguments so you resort to denigration.

There are some cyberbullies here that gets away with it time and time again because the mods are letting things slide. They don't want to sift true other people's stuff but some are ready to quote verbatim the same things that correlates to their own bubble.

The CWU themselves are screaming for the government to intervene. The Rail workers and Union - ditto. Everything is politics!

[LouBarlow]

I don't like the idea of a 2 year deal. After the government scrapped the plan to freeze energy prices , and the talk this will rise to £4K a year from April.

Or no it’s a lot worse than that it’s 6K.

The government has to do something urgently about that . It's ridiculous .

Do what exactly!
No Government of any Political persuasion can produce energy out of thin air.
If you are one of these people who wants to beat Putin then get used to paying more for your energy.

There is paying more and then there is paying more. Look at how much energy prices have increased in other countries compared to our own.

[ProudhonPJ]

Why David Tennant again? I'm not convinced.

[Woody Guthrie]

Why David Tennant again? I'm not convinced.

I think he's a just a temporary placeholder like Rishi.

[ProudhonPJ]

I think he's a just a temporary placeholder like Rishi.

Ha, yes!

[richietns]

There are many political and conspiracy theory threads on here.
Would it be too much to ask people not to hijack a thread on the strikes with geopolitical theories?

Like it or not the reason we want a significant payrise has everything to do with Geopolitics.
A shortage of energy means high inflation.

I agree you can't shut every debate down under the "conspiracy theory"banner its linked to our pay by the economy.

[qwerty2]

Also you'll be working in the dark when you've already done 3-4 hours delivery work when you're tired, wet, cold and far more likely to have an accident.

Also most pubs weren't open at 7am and junkies don't tend to rise before lunchtime.

Anyone comparing early morning dark to early evening dark really hasn't thought things through.

RM will just say you can order a torch and alarm on uniform website that’ll keep you safe

[milly]

I don't like the idea of a 2 year deal. After the government scrapped the plan to freeze energy prices , and the talk this will rise to £4K a year from April.

Or no it’s a lot worse than that it’s 6K.

The government has to do something urgently about that . It's ridiculous .

Do what exactly!
No Government of any Political persuasion can produce energy out of thin air.
If you are one of these people who wants to beat Putin then get used to paying more for your energy.

There is paying more and then there is paying more. Look at how much energy prices have increased in other countries compared to our own.

It depends how much a Government is willing to subsidise energy costs but then you also have to factor where the subsidies come from and who pays for them.
The cost of price caps will be taken from the taxpayer.
You don't get owt for nowt in this life.

[norris9]

Royal Mail want us to all have a 20% pay cut, be on minimum wage, buying our own vans, filling up with our own fuel. Meanwhile Energy costs have tripled. Food is up. Fuel is up. Mortgage rates are up. So we'll have to work 10 hours a day, 7 days a week to survive.

Welcome to Britain.

Sunak needs to put the income tax threshold up before we all starve and freeze. Tax the richest.

[milly]

Royal Mail want us to all have a 20% pay cut, be on minimum wage, buying our own vans, filling up with our own fuel. Meanwhile Energy costs have tripled. Food is up. Fuel is up. Mortgage rates are up. So we'll have to work 10 hours a day, 7 days a week to survive.

Welcome to Britain.

Sunak needs to put the income tax threshold up before we all starve and freeze. Tax the richest.

100% correct!
The income tax threshold is diabolical, it is stealing wealth from the average worker at an alarming rate and makes working a mugs game.

[POSTMAN]

Simon Says

Team - let’s be optimistic today…..
We are meeting this afternoon - to set the ground rules - for potential talks. — feeling hopeful at The Broadway, Wimbledon.