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Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

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tansorboy
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

Post by tansorboy »

They hire another lot, on their new t&cs. And they will be cal PDPs (Parcel Delivery People).
OPG will be history, as will daily arguments with the condom about lapsing.
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2yearpostie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:56
derricksmyth wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:52
tansorboy wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:49
All they need to do is change the job title and invite people to apply for their renamed jobs. Take it or leave it.
So what happens if 115000 decide to grow a pair and not sign?
They poach Hermes/yodel.DPD dtaff that are on worse money and terms than rm will be offering.
You reckon? Most the people i see delivering for Evri,Yodel ect will want nothing to do with Royal Mail. Can’t see them wanting to walk 13 miles a day in all weathers.

Two different jobs that are somewhat similar and skills they learn from being a courier don’t always transfer to being a Postie.
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

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Nickvilla20 wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 19:02
2yearpostie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:56
derricksmyth wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:52
tansorboy wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:49
All they need to do is change the job title and invite people to apply for their renamed jobs. Take it or leave it.
So what happens if 115000 decide to grow a pair and not sign?
They poach Hermes/yodel.DPD dtaff that are on worse money and terms than rm will be offering.
You reckon? Most the people i see delivering for Evri,Yodel ect will want nothing to do with Royal Mail. Can’t see them wanting to walk 13 miles a day in all weathers.

Two different jobs that are somewhat similar and skills they learn from being a courier don’t always transfer to being a Postie.
Your forgetting they dont want mail full time, The posties that stay will do that 3 days a week. The new people will just do parcels (like DPD Hermes etc)
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

Post by tansorboy »

It’s all about the parcels.
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

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postieblueshirt wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:21
This is nothing new.he mentioned there will be jobs for those that can and want to work for royal mail when they first announced parcels hubs/loosing 1 in 6 delivery's.
Think RM have abandoned the local parcel hub idea. They now enter the MC and we sort them to the individual DOs
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

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2yearpostie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 19:04

Your forgetting they dont want mail full time, The posties that stay will do that 3 days a week. The new people will just do parcels (like DPD Hermes etc)

So the full-time posties that stay will be delivering the mail 3 days a week, whilst the new people will deliver parcels (like DPD Hermes etc) on the 7 day a week model?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

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2yearpostie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 19:04
Nickvilla20 wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 19:02
2yearpostie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:56
derricksmyth wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:52
tansorboy wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:49
All they need to do is change the job title and invite people to apply for their renamed jobs. Take it or leave it.
So what happens if 115000 decide to grow a pair and not sign?
They poach Hermes/yodel.DPD dtaff that are on worse money and terms than rm will be offering.
You reckon? Most the people i see delivering for Evri,Yodel ect will want nothing to do with Royal Mail. Can’t see them wanting to walk 13 miles a day in all weathers.

Two different jobs that are somewhat similar and skills they learn from being a courier don’t always transfer to being a Postie.
Your forgetting they dont want mail full time, The posties that stay will do that 3 days a week. The new people will just do parcels (like DPD Hermes etc)
So Royal Mail are going to get a load of new vans for these parcel drivers to use? With later starts more than likely incoming and with a lack of vans now you really think they will let these people stand around all day waiting for vans. They won’t have parcel drivers they will want us to do everything.
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

Post by tansorboy »

Probably need to buy our own vans, like Amazon.
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

Post by Seymour Buts »

The Postman wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 17:47
Was reading through the AGM transcript from 20th July 2022 and seen this under Section IV Group Overview, Part 2 Employees - this is taken directly from the transcript

"We’re confident that if our people work with us to make the changes we’re asking for now, we can offer jobs to all of them or all that want a job on terms that will continue to be industry leading."

Does this mean that it's been ST's plan to force the union into striking so that he can fire and rehire after 12 weeks of no resolution after all?

If so surely the legality of this must be under question?
Sounds to me they're just saying they'll be no compulsory redundancies? Which there won't, because they know with the changes they intend to make a good % will just jack in anyway. We've already lost 3 or 4 who just couldn't stand the fact currently nobody knows where they stand or what's gonna happen. Many are in the process of bringing retirement forward, or just looking for other jobs currently.
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

Post by Jb1969 »

Personally I think we will be all redundant by Xmas.
We all know Father Xmas does most of work & that we won’t be needed.
The Elves will sort the mail, management will deliver it all!
Simon will do his best to do a street or two!
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

Post by thefox »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:47
This site is going full on batshit crazy these days...
Definitely...when my football team get beat i usually avoid the teams forum for a few days as its full of overreaction and crazy conspiracies this place is getting just like that :crazy:
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

Post by GRS »

thefox wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 19:58
Woody Guthrie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:47
This site is going full on batshit crazy these days...
Definitely...when my football team get beat i usually avoid the teams forum for a few days as its full of overreaction and crazy conspiracies this place is getting just like that :crazy:
Unfortunately this is natural human behaviour, it's what we get when people are nervous, worried and fearful. Naturally people start to envisage all sorts of negative outcomes and this then becomes self perpetuating. Obviously a forum magnifies this behaviour because you then have numerous people all acting the same and passing their fears onto each other. It's only going to get worse the longer this IA goes on especially when people feel that there is no positive news emanating from either side.
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

Post by kookoo32 »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:47
This site is going full on batshit crazy these days...
I stumbled on another thread in this section that was going on about Henry Kissinger, Joe Biden and David Rockefeller.

I'm off to make myself a tin foil hat so I fit in on here.
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

Post by Binsey »

kookoo32 wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 20:10
Woody Guthrie wrote:
05 Oct 2022, 18:47
This site is going full on batshit crazy these days...
I stumbled on another thread in this section that was going on about Henry Kissinger, Joe Biden and David Rockefeller.

I'm off to make myself a tin foil hat so I fit in on here.
You haven’t heard about G S E
Governance
Social
Environment

That isn’t a conspiracy RM have totally signed up to it.
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Re: Is this confirmation of Royal Mails plans to fire & rehire?

Post by TopperGas »

I've had this happen to me in the past when my old company was taken over and the new company wanted to bring every employees contract into line, we were told if we didn't agree to sign the new contract we would effectively be terminating our contract, I can#'t recall anybody not agreeing to sign the new contract, although there was no real reasons not to sign it