Some progress has been made.

[chickenwittle]

The focus now has to be around the 3rd ballot and Christmas strikes. CWU should Set the stall out in September and say to RM, if we don't get an acceptable agreement, it'll be an all out strike for all of December

To late for that , should of been done last Xmas.

[daveyeff]

The focus now has to be around the 3rd ballot and Christmas strikes. CWU should Set the stall out in September and say to RM, if we don't get an acceptable agreement, it'll be an all out strike for all of December

December 2030?

[FilthyBloke]

The union and its members are imploding.
You only have to look at the twitter feed to see how much anger it’s members have.
Some want a good pay deal.
Some want the hours to not change.
Some want revisions to be cancelled.

This is probably the biggest dispute since I started nearly 20 years ago and the union have just been out played and out fought.

Poorly timed strikes. Cancelled strikes. Pointless one day strikes. Months and months of talking but no deal. Some members want to strike. Others don’t.

I remember months ago on this forum someone linked a piece where ST supposedly told the managers that changes should be forced now because the union isn’t at one with what they want themselves.

He was right. RM will get what they want and the union will still try to cling on to some kind of hollow victory.

I’m glad I didn’t lose wages and I’m super glad I don’t pay £3 a week for that kind of service.

Oh look the clown has turned up.

Dave ward is here?

Strike breaker and non union member comes on to preach to his work colleagues and expects to be taken seriously.

Maybe I misread the mood in the camp. Clearly the union is doing a marvellous job. No disgruntled members at all. And the talks are going smoothly. Great stuff.

[hans solo]

As well as the RB board, ST & co going, the union PEC need to go as well. I don't have any faith in them anymore, they seem as useless as a chocolate teapot.

To the PEC:9

PULL YOUR FINGER OUT AND GET SOME STRIKE DATES ANNOUNCED!!!

I can only speak for my office and I can tell you , strikes will be the end of any bargaining power we have left and the union know that which is why they are holding off and trying to get a deal , we’ve done the strikes it didn’t change anything.

We don't have ANY bargaining power except for strike action. Yes they never budged at xmas but 1&2 days are useless. We need to hit them harder.

And how would that help us get a deal with a company on the verge of administration ? Pointless.

So what the hell was the point in a ballot for strike action then? Do you really think they are just going to give us a deal cos they like us? Dream on

It’s to show that the workforce back their union, a strike mandate doesn’t necessarily mean strike action, it’s a bargaining tool.

You,ve just contradicted yourself.strikes are a bargaining tool, but you say strikes will end any bargaining. They'll focus them if we strike. We won't get anything if we dont

No , calling strikes will end our bargaining power , while the threat of strikes is still there the union can still push for an agreement.Everyone has different opinions but nearly a year of strikes has done nothing but lose us money so far.

18 days is nowhere near a year.....its dragged on this long simply because we haven't been on strike enough.

That’s your opinion, it’s not the opinion of lots in my office that are weary from it all and despite backing their union , want this sorted and don’t really want to strike anymore.

It’s my opinion as well we’ve only played at going on strike
Should have went all out nov dec
This country is full of s**t scared sheep
That’s why we will always be dictated to
f**k me just watch the kids film antz
Shows who has the power
Waken up and use it

[antcpfc]

And your management mates are doing a great job too. Well respected and admired by all the workers at the coal face.

[FilthyBloke]

And your management mates are doing a great job too. Well respected and admired by all the workers at the coal face.

My management mates? I don’t pay a weekly subscription to them. I do what they ask me to do in the time I’m getting paid for. If they ask too much I ask for more wages.
Stress free and easy.

[needadvice]

The focus now has to be around the 3rd ballot and Christmas strikes. CWU should Set the stall out in September and say to RM, if we don't get an acceptable agreement, it'll be an all out strike for all of December

To late for that , should of been done last Xmas.

Yes but the year is flying by. As we approach Summer, all minds must be on the Autumn and Winter. I'm sure RM already have their gameplan mapped out

[heraldmoth]

The union and its members are imploding.
You only have to look at the twitter feed to see how much anger it’s members have.
Some want a good pay deal.
Some want the hours to not change.
Some want revisions to be cancelled.

This is probably the biggest dispute since I started nearly 20 years ago and the union have just been out played and out fought.

Poorly timed strikes. Cancelled strikes. Pointless one day strikes. Months and months of talking but no deal. Some members want to strike. Others don’t.

I remember months ago on this forum someone linked a piece where ST supposedly told the managers that changes should be forced now because the union isn’t at one with what they want themselves.

He was right. RM will get what they want and the union will still try to cling on to some kind of hollow victory.

I’m glad I didn’t lose wages and I’m super glad I don’t pay £3 a week for that kind of service.

Oh look the clown has turned up.

Dave ward is here?

Strike breaker and non union member comes on to preach to his work colleagues and expects to be taken seriously.

Makes a change from people leading colleagues up the garden path

[heraldmoth]

The union and its members are imploding.
You only have to look at the twitter feed to see how much anger it’s members have.
Some want a good pay deal.
Some want the hours to not change.
Some want revisions to be cancelled.

This is probably the biggest dispute since I started nearly 20 years ago and the union have just been out played and out fought.

Poorly timed strikes. Cancelled strikes. Pointless one day strikes. Months and months of talking but no deal. Some members want to strike. Others don’t.

I remember months ago on this forum someone linked a piece where ST supposedly told the managers that changes should be forced now because the union isn’t at one with what they want themselves.

He was right. RM will get what they want and the union will still try to cling on to some kind of hollow victory.

I’m glad I didn’t lose wages and I’m super glad I don’t pay £3 a week for that kind of service.

Oh look the clown has turned up.

Dave ward is here?

Strike breaker and non union member comes on to preach to his work colleagues and expects to be taken seriously.

Makes a change from people leading colleagues up the garden path

[guardianangel]

Another week of broken promises,getting quite use to it now we have lived with the Tory party for 12 years.

[Hyrrokkin]

The focus now has to be around the 3rd ballot and Christmas strikes. CWU should Set the stall out in September and say to RM, if we don't get an acceptable agreement, it'll be an all out strike for all of December

You are having a laugh right ?

You want to continue this farce until next Christmas !!

[k979aaa]

The best side for all now is a half and half agreement they get half of what they want and we get half of we want and a pay rise but the pay rise will be going forward ie no back pay. Thing is this has gone on too long we need an agreement but not just for the sake of an agreement! We need change but progressive change and we need trust and the only way I can see that is by abiding by and reinstating passed agreements that they broke last year! And then a structure of engagement of both sides of how this can work. Also an end to the BONUS CULTURE BY MANAGEMENT Only these proposals will end this dispute.

[miles_peters]

And your management mates are doing a great job too. Well respected and admired by all the workers at the coal face.

My management mates? I don’t pay a weekly subscription to them. I do what they ask me to do in the time I’m getting paid for. If they ask too much I ask for more wages.
Stress free and easy.

by doing what managers are asking you to do makes you complicit in helping to destroy the business. Some people just don't get this...

[guardianangel]

As well as the RB board, ST & co going, the union PEC need to go as well. I don't have any faith in them anymore, they seem as useless as a chocolate teapot.

To the PEC:9

PULL YOUR FINGER OUT AND GET SOME STRIKE DATES ANNOUNCED!!!

I can only speak for my office and I can tell you , strikes will be the end of any bargaining power we have left and the union know that which is why they are holding off and trying to get a deal , we’ve done the strikes it didn’t change anything.

We don't have ANY bargaining power except for strike action. Yes they never budged at xmas but 1&2 days are useless. We need to hit them harder.

And how would that help us get a deal with a company on the verge of administration ? Pointless.

So what the hell was the point in a ballot for strike action then? Do you really think they are just going to give us a deal cos they like us? Dream on

It’s to show that the workforce back their union, a strike mandate doesn’t necessarily mean strike action, it’s a bargaining tool.

You,ve just contradicted yourself.strikes are a bargaining tool, but you say strikes will end any bargaining. They'll focus them if we strike. We won't get anything if we dont

No , calling strikes will end our bargaining power , while the threat of strikes is still there the union can still push for an agreement.Everyone has different opinions but nearly a year of strikes has done nothing but lose us money so far.

18 days is nowhere near a year.....its dragged on this long simply because we haven't been on strike enough.

That’s your opinion, it’s not the opinion of lots in my office that are weary from it all and despite backing their union , want this sorted and don’t really want to strike anymore.

It’s my opinion as well we’ve only played at going on strike
Should have went all out nov dec
This country is full of s**t scared sheep
That’s why we will always be dictated to
f**k me just watch the kids film antz
Shows who has the power
Waken up and use it

[SpacePhoenix]

The best side for all now is a half and half agreement they get half of what they want and we get half of we want and a pay rise but the pay rise will be going forward ie no back pay. Thing is this has gone on too long we need an agreement but not just for the sake of an agreement! We need change but progressive change and we need trust and the only way I can see that is by abiding by and reinstating passed agreements that they broke last year! And then a structure of engagement of both sides of how this can work. Also an end to the BONUS CULTURE BY MANAGEMENT Only these proposals will end this dispute.

Think RM have already got most of what they wanted