How are you voting - Update

[guardianangel]

They're gunna push through the changes regardless of the vote

They cant push the seasonal hours without change of contract they are banking on a yes vote for collective bargaining where the majority agrees to the change,legally they have to pay you for the hours worked not in 8 months time,it would be brave for them to push forward without the yes vote because they would be in breach of contract,the union are not telling you this because they dont want the hassle of what happens next,i urge everyone to think hard on voting yes as once you do your signing all your rights away the CWU wont tell you this.

[spaceman07]

NO

[koolishy67]

Yes

[KilledOff]

NO

[thefox]

They're gunna push through the changes regardless of the vote

They cant push the seasonal hours without change of contract they are banking on a yes vote for collective bargaining where the majority agrees to the change,legally they have to pay you for the hours worked not in 8 months time,it would be brave for them to push forward without the yes vote because they would be in breach of contract,the union are not telling you this because they dont want the hassle of what happens next,i urge everyone to think hard on voting yes as once you do your signing all your rights away the CWU wont tell you this.

Exactly this

[thefox]

No from me

[X_hamster]

All those or the majority that vote yes will be moaning after the first 4:30 finish Saturday guranteed.

Wait till they finish their 16:55 winter flex shift , in the pitch dark and inclement weather......yup I signed off on this

Wont even be paid anymore for it,, the big gig transistion in front of our very eyes.

[richietns]

They're gunna push through the changes regardless of the vote

They cant push the seasonal hours without change of contract they are banking on a yes vote for collective bargaining where the majority agrees to the change,legally they have to pay you for the hours worked not in 8 months time,it would be brave for them to push forward without the yes vote because they would be in breach of contract,the union are not telling you this because they dont want the hassle of what happens next,i urge everyone to think hard on voting yes as once you do your signing all your rights away the CWU wont tell you this.

Are you sure I bet they could if they are losing money especially.

[X_hamster]

They're gunna push through the changes regardless of the vote

They cant push the seasonal hours without change of contract they are banking on a yes vote for collective bargaining where the majority agrees to the change,legally they have to pay you for the hours worked not in 8 months time,it would be brave for them to push forward without the yes vote because they would be in breach of contract,the union are not telling you this because they dont want the hassle of what happens next,i urge everyone to think hard on voting yes as once you do your signing all your rights away the CWU wont tell you this.

Seems the delays and apathy are winning the day at the moment.

For a pittance of a taxed lump sum

Absolutely nothing in this deal is on the side of the employee, but many are getting ground down and are just going to accept it

What a shame

[richietns]

They're gunna push through the changes regardless of the vote

They cant push the seasonal hours without change of contract they are banking on a yes vote for collective bargaining where the majority agrees to the change,legally they have to pay you for the hours worked not in 8 months time,it would be brave for them to push forward without the yes vote because they would be in breach of contract,the union are not telling you this because they dont want the hassle of what happens next,i urge everyone to think hard on voting yes as once you do your signing all your rights away the CWU wont tell you this.

Seems the delays and apathy are winning the day at the moment.

For a pittance of a taxed lump sum

Absolutely nothing in this deal is on the side of the employee, but many are getting ground down and are just going to accept it

What a shame

Because what alternatives are there a yes is s**t but is better than a black hole of who knows,vote no and then have no one putting at least the breaks on a bit.

[freespeech]

They're gunna push through the changes regardless of the vote

They cant push the seasonal hours without change of contract they are banking on a yes vote for collective bargaining where the majority agrees to the change,legally they have to pay you for the hours worked not in 8 months time,it would be brave for them to push forward without the yes vote because they would be in breach of contract,the union are not telling you this because they dont want the hassle of what happens next,i urge everyone to think hard on voting yes as once you do your signing all your rights away the CWU wont tell you this.

Exactly this

I'm still not convinced.....we have collective bargaining and legally an agreement with the CWU is for everyone. That agreement is already there signed by the top table and ratified by the PEC. The ballot is nothing more than admin (from a legal perspective).

[claystones]

I dont like to give the cwu any credit for selling us out big time but they postponed the ballot because it was going to be a massive no vote and have worked out a bribe to get there yes vote they played a blinder sadly i cant wait to get out of this union they are finished

[Kirkz]

The extra carrot of around £900 isn't payable until September iirc.
So you're not getting £1400 taxable bonus you'll get £400 taxable and then have to wait until they've sorted out the extra £900ish.

Still a NO from me.This deal smells worse than Billingsgate market on a hot summers day.

[hans solo]

Most people I know are voting yes.

Sick of the dispute. Take the lump sum and look for something else.

Dragged on long enough.

Through the last 20 years whenever there's a dispute the terms and conditions have been eroded.

No way around it, that's the way the business is going. If you've been in long enough then you'll have witnessed it. Good times are over

You obviously don’t have many friends or know that many people then

[hans solo]

They're gunna push through the changes regardless of the vote

So was the last one which they didn’t comply with

They cant push the seasonal hours without change of contract they are banking on a yes vote for collective bargaining where the majority agrees to the change,legally they have to pay you for the hours worked not in 8 months time,it would be brave for them to push forward without the yes vote because they would be in breach of contract,the union are not telling you this because they dont want the hassle of what happens next,i urge everyone to think hard on voting yes as once you do your signing all your rights away the CWU wont tell you this.

Exactly this

I'm still not convinced.....we have collective bargaining and legally an agreement with the CWU is for everyone. That agreement is already there signed by the top table and ratified by the PEC. The ballot is nothing more than admin (from a legal perspective).