It is what every union does

[k979aaa]

lou give it up we now know you do not know the contractual hours of a postman nor his wage fact of the matter is selling a deal needs credibility and you have none!

[scotchy1962]

As put very well and simply in another thread: They've been got to.

This is all part of a very sinister agenda. They certainly didn't wake up one morning and do a total u-turn about how a total pile of shite has somehow become something good.

Did the thread you refer to offer up any kind of evidence, or is this some bizarre conspiracy theory that has been dreamed up, when the truth is, they changed their tune after seeing the finances? That seems more likely to me, but people don’t want to believe it for some reason.

Lou i hope you realise the contradiction in your argument. It would save me the bother of explaining to you about "conspiracy theories", and "what seems more likely to you", none of which are factual or evidential. Here endeth the lesson. All apologies accepted in advance.

[Geordiepapa]

Will be interesting to see what kind of a payoff Simon Thomson now walks away with, bearing in mind that this is a company supposedly in dire financial states .

[LouBarlow]

lou give it up we now know you do not know the contractual hours of a postman nor his wage fact of the matter is selling a deal needs credibility and you have none!

What are you on about? My payslip has 37 hours listed on it. Have you been on the sherry all weekend or something? I don’t blame you but still. Make sense man.

[dazzler123]

is Thompson deffo going soon?

[LouBarlow]

Lou i hope you realise the contradiction in your argument. It would save me the bother of explaining to you about "conspiracy theories", and "what seems more likely to you", none of which are factual or evidential. Here endeth the lesson. All apologies accepted in advance.

So that is a no then. Literally nothing to back up your wild theory. Point me to the other thread mentioned, where this vast conspiracy was explained further.

[k979aaa]

lou give it up we now know you do not know the contractual hours of a postman nor his wage fact of the matter is selling a deal needs credibility and you have none!

What are you on about? My payslip has 37 hours listed on it. Have you been on the sherry all weekend or something? I don’t blame you but still. Make sense man.

So you do not know if your full time or not? Do you do a walk or are you a desk person?

[guardianangel]

We won nothing.

Not a flaming thing.

You were told by members time, and time again, it wasn't pay that worried them most, but the amount of more damage you might allow Royal Mail to inflict on our jobs, and our ever-shrinking T&Cs.

The in-road you have given those utter bastards to cut our sick pay is, quite frankly, the most astounding turd I've ever seen a union hurl at it's workers. They will be back demanding more, and get it, too.

Absorbtion. Remember agreeing to that?
It'll only be on the lightest day of the week, they whined. Remember?
Now look at the absolute f***ing state of it, and the members you threw under the bus by agreeing to such an awful proposal, that have to endure the daily pressure that f***ing piece of shite brings.

Those bastards you've let tickle your tummy, do not fear you, Ward, Fury, the CWU.
They know that with experienced full-timers coming towards the end of this f***ing sorry road, and I, along with 2 others at my very understaffed office, being among them, and with very angry members who have supported this union, losing pay even during Christmas, quitting the union because, well, because why not? They know they have you on the run.
Your presence in the workplace isn't going to worry RM bosses, not anymore.

You bloody, stupid, fools.
Sick pay cut.
Below inflation pay rise.
Later starts.
Deliveries anything up to 6 hours long.

Longer deliveries will see an increase in sickness.
Just as it did when you allowed the bastards to inflict 4 hour deliveries on us.
The company's answer to this, is the inhumane one, cut their sick pay to deter them from taking the time they need off.

I can't f***ing believe any union man worth his salt would condone that shite.

We won nothing, f**k all, nada.

I can't argue with any of that ,spot on.

[scotchy1962]

Lou i hope you realise the contradiction in your argument. It would save me the bother of explaining to you about "conspiracy theories", and "what seems more likely to you", none of which are factual or evidential. Here endeth the lesson. All apologies accepted in advance.

So that is a no then. Literally nothing to back up your wild theory. Point me to the other thread mentioned, where this vast conspiracy was explained further.

Please read the original post, which you havent bothered putting up for context, then come back and tell me what the problem is. I never made the "conspiracy theory" quote that was yourself. I was merely pointing out you had no hard facts apart from what you think. Please gather yourself together and concentrate on what you are talking about. Are you answering another poster on this thread? Do you know what day it is? Whats your name? Do you even work for Royal Mail?

[Mickeybrowneyes]

Frankly I don't trust RM to not bring in all that crap by EA a few months down the line. I suspect that there's a good few members on here that also don't trust RM to not bring all the crap in by EA a few months down the line

At least with an agreement you can hold them to account.
I don't trust Royal Mail but if you went on strike indefinitely until they become all of a sudden trustworthy, we would all be jobless in a matter of weeks.

[LouBarlow]

Lou i hope you realise the contradiction in your argument. It would save me the bother of explaining to you about "conspiracy theories", and "what seems more likely to you", none of which are factual or evidential. Here endeth the lesson. All apologies accepted in advance.

So that is a no then. Literally nothing to back up your wild theory. Point me to the other thread mentioned, where this vast conspiracy was explained further.

Please read the original post, which you havent bothered putting up for context, then come back and tell me what the problem is. I never made the "conspiracy theory" quote that was yourself. I was merely pointing out you had no hard facts apart from what you think. Please gather yourself together and concentrate on what you are talking about. Are you answering another poster on this thread? Do you know what day it is? Whats your name? Do you even work for Royal Mail?

I’ve been moaned at for quoting too many posts, now not enough. You can’t win.

I’m quoting you. You obviously believe that the union are putting their own survival before our own well-being, as you agreed with the other poster, who also never managed to offer any hindsight as to why they believe this conspiracy. There was an implication that there was another topic on these boards that outlined this theory more thoroughly, but it has not been given to me, despite this plea.

[stevejm]

Lou i hope you realise the contradiction in your argument. It would save me the bother of explaining to you about "conspiracy theories", and "what seems more likely to you", none of which are factual or evidential. Here endeth the lesson. All apologies accepted in advance.

So that is a no then. Literally nothing to back up your wild theory. Point me to the other thread mentioned, where this vast conspiracy was explained further.

Please read the original post, which you havent bothered putting up for context, then come back and tell me what the problem is. I never made the "conspiracy theory" quote that was yourself. I was merely pointing out you had no hard facts apart from what you think. Please gather yourself together and concentrate on what you are talking about. Are you answering another poster on this thread? Do you know what day it is? Whats your name? Do you even work for Royal Mail?

I’ve been moaned at for quoting too many posts, now not enough. You can’t win.

I’m quoting you. You obviously believe that the union are putting their own survival before our own well-being, as you agreed with the other poster, who also never managed to offer any hindsight as to why they believe this conspiracy. There was an implication that there was another topic on these boards that outlined this theory more thoroughly, but it has not been given to me, despite this plea.

There were two other threads. I understand you can't remember them as you are another one who seemingly lives on here posting hundreds of not very instructive retorts.
Now I can't be arsed to go back and find them, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that you had posted on those two threads seeming as you post on virtually every other thread.
One was started by claredarep.

[SpacePhoenix]

Frankly I don't trust RM to not bring in all that crap by EA a few months down the line. I suspect that there's a good few members on here that also don't trust RM to not bring all the crap in by EA a few months down the line

At least with an agreement you can hold them to account.
I don't trust Royal Mail but if you went on strike indefinitely until they become all of a sudden trustworthy, we would all be jobless in a matter of weeks.

I don't trust them to stick to any agreement. Look at the amount of revisions going ahead when AFAIK they were all supposed to have been put on hold

[scotchy1962]

Lou i hope you realise the contradiction in your argument. It would save me the bother of explaining to you about "conspiracy theories", and "what seems more likely to you", none of which are factual or evidential. Here endeth the lesson. All apologies accepted in advance.

So that is a no then. Literally nothing to back up your wild theory. Point me to the other thread mentioned, where this vast conspiracy was explained further.

Please read the original post, which you havent bothered putting up for context, then come back and tell me what the problem is. I never made the "conspiracy theory" quote that was yourself. I was merely pointing out you had no hard facts apart from what you think. Please gather yourself together and concentrate on what you are talking about. Are you answering another poster on this thread? Do you know what day it is? Whats your name? Do you even work for Royal Mail?

I’ve been moaned at for quoting too many posts, now not enough. You can’t win.

I’m quoting you. You obviously believe that the union are putting their own survival before our own well-being, as you agreed with the other poster, who also never managed to offer any hindsight as to why they believe this conspiracy. There was an implication that there was another topic on these boards that outlined this theory more thoroughly, but it has not been given to me, despite this plea.

At no stage did i say i believe anything of the sort.
At no stage did i say i agree with the other poster.
I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of saying where are the facts on a certain theory, and then offering up your opinion (Not factual) on another theory.
You obviously cant see the problem so i will let you go on with posting your untruths to try to get people to vote the way you want them too.

[LouBarlow]

At no stage did i say i believe anything of the sort.
At no stage did i say i agree with the other poster.
I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of saying where are the facts on a certain theory, and then offering up your opinion (Not factual) on another theory.
You obviously cant see the problem so i will let you go on with posting your untruths to try to get people to vote the way you want them too.

I don’t care how a few people on a message board vote. I’m merely pointing out the reality of what a no-deal scenario will be for us all, as Martin has outlined many times before on this forum. If a PE member is telling you something, it is probably best to trust him over some random on the internet (myself included actually) who believes the CWU and RM are operating some conspiracy to screw us all over over.