ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

Sent to postcomm cc to allan leighton

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
the beautiful bd south
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 336
Joined: 06 Jun 2007, 20:48
Location: west riding of yorkshire

Sent to postcomm cc to allan leighton

Post by the beautiful bd south »

How can everybody now be on a so called level playing field when Royal Mails competitors have the right to high jack Royal Mails USA through Down Stream Access?
Everyday Royal Mail are dealing with more and more of it's so called competitors mail,
Even one of Allan Leighton's other Companies (Bskyb) send there mail through TNT down the down stream access route, How can Royal Mail survive when even the chairman uses an alternative to his own company?
In Royal Mail financial statement it was claimed that DSA made over £40m losses as apposed to £14m previously this was due to the amount of DSA mail almost doubling?

I urge postcomm to intervene and make sure Royal Mail is paid fairly for what is so called the The final mile, when in reality our competitors mail is delivered by Royal Mail, sorted by Royal Mail, processed on Royal Mails machinery and transported in Royal Mail vehicles (some final mile).

If Royal Mails competitors require access to DSA and the so called final mile it should be just that.
They should be made to deliver there mail to each and every delivery office each and EVERYDAY and be surcharged for any missorted bags/mail etc which then have to join the Royal Mail pipeline.

I am sure this would then be closer to a level playing field.
TOO OLD TO DIE YOUNG
the beautiful bd south
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 336
Joined: 06 Jun 2007, 20:48
Location: west riding of yorkshire

reply from Mr Leighton! (yes i was shocked)

Post by the beautiful bd south »

Tnx for this..........we are lobbying regulator......and I have no say aboiut what sky do commercially......in fact I'm not allowed too!!!
They go with TNT because they r 20p c cheaper than us!!!......which is why we need to modernise.

Kind regards

Allan
TOO OLD TO DIE YOUNG
not me
Posts: 2735
Joined: 10 Aug 2007, 15:07
Gender: Female
Location: Uranus

Post by not me »

here,here
seems like common sense but as we know that has little bearing
plodsie
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 191
Joined: 02 Aug 2007, 01:33

Re: reply from Mr Leighton! (yes i was shocked)

Post by plodsie »

the beautiful bd south wrote:Tnx for this..........we are lobbying regulator......and I have no say aboiut what sky do commercially......in fact I'm not allowed too!!!
They go with TNT because they r 20p c cheaper than us!!!......which is why we need to modernise.

Kind regards

Allan
The reason they can offer it so cheaply is that we do the majority of the work. Their service, and that of all our competitors are entirely reliant on Royal Mail. Notice how tomorrow, the fictional postmen of DHL, TNT, Business Post, UK Mail.. et al, will be on strike too.

P.S. Why all the typing errors Allan? Are you doing something to Crozier with one hand while trying to type with the other?



NO ROYAL MAIL? NO POST!
Glasgow driver.

Q. Who exactly are the Competition?
A. People who'll post a letter for you.
jobsworth
Posts: 37
Joined: 01 Jul 2007, 15:16

Re: reply from Mr Leighton! (yes i was shocked)

Post by jobsworth »

plodsie wrote:
the beautiful bd south wrote:Tnx for this..........we are lobbying regulator......and I have no say aboiut what sky do commercially......in fact I'm not allowed too!!!
They go with TNT because they r 20p c cheaper than us!!!......which is why we need to modernise.

Kind regards

Allan
The reason they can offer it so cheaply is that we do the majority of the work. Their service, and that of all our competitors are entirely reliant on Royal Mail. Notice how tomorrow, the fictional postmen of DHL, TNT, Business Post, UK Mail.. et al, will be on strike too.

P.S. Why all the typing errors Allan? Are you doing something to Crozier with one hand while trying to type with the other?



NO ROYAL MAIL? NO POST!


If indeed it was from Allan?????
the beautiful bd south
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 336
Joined: 06 Jun 2007, 20:48
Location: west riding of yorkshire

reply from postcom

Post by the beautiful bd south »

Thank you for your email of 3 October regarding your concerns over competition in the postal market and downstream access arrangements. Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding.

By way of background, Postcomm was created by Parliament in November 2000 to maintain the universal service provision - the arrangement where letters and parcels are collected and delivered each working day to any part of the UK for the same price - and generally to promote customer interests, where appropriate by promoting competition in postal services.

Royal Mail is required to negotiate "access agreements" with any large mailer or rival licensed operator. However these are commercial agreements, negotiated independently of Postcomm. (Details of individual access agreements are available on Royal Mail's website.) If organisations are unable to agree with Royal Mail a fair price for access, we can to intervene to ensure that it is made available on appropriate terms. All access agreements so far have been independently negotiated by Royal Mail and the licensed operator.

I hope this information has been of some use.

Kind regards,
TOO OLD TO DIE YOUNG
weetrogg
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 239
Joined: 07 Oct 2007, 13:36

how do u email mr hardy?

Post by weetrogg »

Could you please give me are esteemed leaders contact details please?
the beautiful bd south
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 336
Joined: 06 Jun 2007, 20:48
Location: west riding of yorkshire

Post by the beautiful bd south »

TOO OLD TO DIE YOUNG
k979aaa
Posts: 12578
Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
Gender: Male
Location: THE NORTH

Re: reply from postcom

Post by k979aaa »

the beautiful bd south wrote:Thank you for your email of 3 October regarding your concerns over competition in the postal market and downstream access arrangements. Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding.

By way of background, Postcomm was created by Parliament in November 2000 to maintain the universal service provision - the arrangement where letters and parcels are collected and delivered each working day to any part of the UK for the same price - and generally to promote customer interests, where appropriate by promoting competition in postal services.

Royal Mail is required to negotiate "access agreements" with any large mailer or rival licensed operator. However these are commercial agreements, negotiated independently of Postcomm. (Details of individual access agreements are available on Royal Mail's website.) If organisations are unable to agree with Royal Mail a fair price for access, we can to intervene to ensure that it is made available on appropriate terms. All access agreements so far have been independently negotiated by Royal Mail and the licensed operator.

I hope this information has been of some use.

Kind regards,
So there you have it it's adam's fault for agreeing to too lower price for DSA why is alan leighton not doing something about adam's incompetance in this matter!!!!!.
norbet colon
Posts: 914
Joined: 29 May 2007, 19:56
Location: elsewhere

Embrassing Trendy Grandad

Post by norbet colon »

k979aaa wrote:
the beautiful bd south wrote:Thank you for your email of 3 October regarding your concerns over competition in the postal market and downstream access arrangements. Please accept my apologies for the delay in responding.

By way of background, Postcomm was created by Parliament in November 2000 to maintain the universal service provision - the arrangement where letters and parcels are collected and delivered each working day to any part of the UK for the same price - and generally to promote customer interests, where appropriate by promoting competition in postal services.

Royal Mail is required to negotiate "access agreements" with any large mailer or rival licensed operator. However these are commercial agreements, negotiated independently of Postcomm. (Details of individual access agreements are available on Royal Mail's website.) If organisations are unable to agree with Royal Mail a fair price for access, we can to intervene to ensure that it is made available on appropriate terms. All access agreements so far have been independently negotiated by Royal Mail and the licensed operator.

I hope this information has been of some use.

Kind regards,
So there you have it it's adam's fault for agreeing to too lower price for DSA why is alan leighton not doing something about adam's incompetance in this matter!!!!!.
why is a fat balding ginger-haired man in his early 50's trying to be all trendy and with it by using text language ? also that reply is nonsense , so typical RM blame the staff , why not sack us all & get illegal immigrants in like his beloved Walmart did , or have staff unpaid and make them rely on tips . BT won't be able to deal with the volume of complaint calls . Prat !!!!
Last edited by norbet colon on 15 Oct 2007, 21:02, edited 2 times in total.
Wild Rover
Posts: 614
Joined: 03 Aug 2007, 17:41
Location: Jockistan

Post by Wild Rover »

which is why we need to modernise.
That sounds like the kind of thing AL would say! Although the spelling mistakes are a bit dicey.!
IWW Fellow Worker
Posts: 3644
Joined: 30 May 2007, 14:27
Gender: Male

Re: reply from postcom

Post by IWW Fellow Worker »

norbet colon wrote:why is a fat balding ginger-haired man in his early 50's trying to be all trendy and with it by using text language ?
I was thinking the same thing myself. I wonder if he sits on a wall outside the chip shop at night with his mates wearing a hooped hoodie and listening to 50 Cent on his i-pod? The more I hear of this nugget, the more I think he's as nutty as a fruitcake.
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!

"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."