For those who are wavering

Post by **stephen500** » 13 Sep 2007, 15:04

I know that there are those who think that the union is misguided and feel that strikes will acheive little. I know there are those who cannot afford to lose money.
But i ask that you consider this:
If the union, which is us collectively, were to lose this dispute do you think Royal Mail would stop with these proposals?
When i started with RM all overtime was paid at double time after 12 hours.
There were no households.
If you had a big delivery you had at most two pouches!
Sick pay was paid to everyone, including new entrants!
My pension was SECURE!
I didn't get rung up at home to check on my 'welfare' regarding sickness!
Royal mail's aim is not only to get its way for this 'round' but to complete a knockout against the cwu. Then it really can begin its real agenda and who knows what that is?
Mail centres competing against each other?
Franchise deliveries with the franchise holder responsible for sick and leave coverage?
It could even get really riddiculous:
Postman paid for delivery by pouch weight!
STAND BY YOUR UNION, IF IT LOSES THE RACE TO THE BOTTOM STARTS HERE!

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 13 Sep 2007, 15:06

Great posting! Spot on mate.

leader · Post by **leader** » 13 Sep 2007, 16:29

The union is only as strong as its members but the role reversal is now in play and we are only as strong as those who make the decisions. At this minute in time members are the ones calling for more forecable action yet we hear nothing from messrs Ward and Hayes. If October 8th comes with no real guidance or intervention then understand we MUST take our own action and remove those who are unable to make critical decisions.

solidarity across the country!!!!!

jackdaw · Post by **jackdaw** » 13 Sep 2007, 16:34

I am not wavering in that i see the need for positive action but generally speaking I disagree with strike action. If we did our jobs by the book we would get somewhere and a lot of managers would be under pressure...they would also be doing a lot of walking.

axeman · Post by **axeman** » 13 Sep 2007, 16:46

told by area rep meetings are going on just stay strong and we will shi* on these two pric*8 :lfo :cfo

postierg · Post by **postierg** » 13 Sep 2007, 17:11

im tending to agree with jackdaw, we need public support and with christmas looming if we go out the public would turn like a pack of hungry wolves against us, if we work to rule the public might be able to see we are trying to do the job to the best of our ability whislt fighting against these stupid strings that these idiots are trying to bring in, ive already been told that customers want their mail earlier rather than later, and ive said put in a complaint, hopefully if enough complaints go in from the customers, it MIGHT help our cause :lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo

genesis · Post by **genesis** » 13 Sep 2007, 17:39

well I totally agree with stephen 500 This lot will stop at nothing. And they dont want to pay redundancies either.I,m afraid we gotta hit them in december folks

goona · Post by **goona** » 13 Sep 2007, 19:50

For the Full time staff that may be wavering.

Lose eight hours pay a week now until this is resolved, or lose eight hours per week every week
because with these two clowns at the helm you'll be a part timer for sure.

ROCKY · Post by **ROCKY** » 13 Sep 2007, 20:05

goona said it ages ago on a thread we loose 20 per cent of our wages striking or 25 per cent of our wages if adam and al get their way,might as well have the day off and save 5 per cent of our wages

UNION JACK · Post by **UNION JACK** » 13 Sep 2007, 20:50

ITS NO POINT DOING YOUR JOB IN OUR OFFICE COS THE MANAGERS DONT WALK THEY JUST LEAVE THE MAIL BEHIND FOR US TO DELIVER THE NEXT DAY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO WILFUL DELAY WE NEED TO STRIKE AND WE NEED TO DO IT NOW!!!!! LETS HAVE IT NOW SHORT TERM LOSS FOR LONG TERM GAIN.
LETS STICK TOGETHER BOYS AND BRING THESE TWO NUMPTYS DOWN

waffler · Post by **waffler** » 13 Sep 2007, 21:25

My rep showed me a copy of the 'flexible working' proposals, find them on here in NEWS forum and read them. Should put anybody with any self respect off crossing a picket line. If you want Royal Fail to bounce you round like a ball and have no life outside this s**t. . . . . . . :lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo

Post by **baldrick** » 13 Sep 2007, 21:35

waffler wrote:My rep showed me a copy of the 'flexible working' proposals, find them on here in NEWS forum and read them. Should put anybody with any self respect off crossing a picket line. If you want Royal Fail to bounce you round like a ball and have no life outside this s**t. . . . . . . :lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo

I've put them on http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... 6457#46457

Post by **dvbuk55** » 13 Sep 2007, 21:39

jackdaw wrote:I am not wavering in that i see the need for positive action but generally speaking I disagree with strike action. If we did our jobs by the book we would get somewhere and a lot of managers would be under pressure...they would also be doing a lot of walking.

There's nothing stopping you doing both - the union advocate this - but how many are actually doing it?

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 13 Sep 2007, 21:42

Seniorman wrote:
waffler wrote:My rep showed me a copy of the 'flexible working' proposals, find them on here in NEWS forum and read them. Should put anybody with any self respect off crossing a picket line. If you want Royal Fail to bounce you round like a ball and have no life outside this s**t. . . . . . . :lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo
I've put them on http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... 6457#46457

Just read it.. unreal!

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 13 Sep 2007, 21:48

genesis wrote:well I totally agree with stephen 500 This lot will stop at nothing. And they dont want to pay redundancies either.I,m afraid we gotta hit them in december folks

Yea, they wud rather look at a way to sack us rather than pay us a redundancy sum!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mite be less hassel for them if they wud pay redundant to those who want it!!

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For those who are wavering

For those who are wavering

TO JACKDAW