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LATER STARTS IT HURTS

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LATER STARTS IT HURTS

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Just reading some of the threads about later starts, we have been doing it for about a year now (4am now 6am)
DONT LET IT HAPPEN ITS A KILLER, if our bags arent already full enough & running you into the ground the midday sun will soon finish you off
By the way should Royal Mail supply sun cream for us here in sunny Devon?
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That's a big jump 4 to 6 must of screwed you guys right up.

I'll move this to Blue Shirts an all.
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Re: LATER STARTS IT HURTS

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manwithnovan wrote:Just reading some of the threads about later starts, we have been doing it for about a year now (4am now 6am)
DONT LET IT HAPPEN ITS A KILLER, if our bags arent already full enough & running you into the ground the midday sun will soon finish you off
By the way should Royal Mail supply sun cream for us here in sunny Devon?
Spot on. We went from 05.00 to 06.30 and it sucks. The rep told us we had no other option, but it seems we did. The manager might have told him that line, but come Saturday mornings, anyone with a life outside of work have their weekend considerably shortened by a combination of the late start and the amount of TNT etc. rubbish.
Anyone who hasn't moved to later starts should fight them as soon as they are mentioned.
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Dont you leave the mailsort3 on a Sat? We do
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We always leave the Mailsort,all of it.
I know the N/A stipulates slightly different,summin about if they're loose you have to take them or summin like that.
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Yep we only leave the bagged mailsort, any loose has to go. Problem is today was a killer as we had National Trust Mags & everyone in Devon seems to be a member
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late start nonsense.

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hold out to late starts the best you can.
royal mail blaim it on the rtd saying lorries can only travel at 56 mph causing an hour delay in arrivals.
c**p!!
It only puts 15 mins on at the most and in cities it's still the same as it always was.

let's hope for a big yes vote!!
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Razzamadazz wrote:The Lie

After being confronted by the CWU over the driving times of our network lorries, Royal Mail has finally admitted that the introduction of the 56mph legislation to be implemented in August this year, will have NO impact on our network lorries at all.

To explain, when the driving times of our network lorries were originally tested, they were tested at a maximum speed of 56mph anyway. The 600 lorries that run mail from our mail centres to our delivery offices, were tested at an even slower speed i.e., 30mph or less due to local speed limits and traffic levels at the time they was driving, 16mph in places like London. So in reality the network lorries are already compliant with the new 56mph legislation.

The mail currently arrives at our mail centres at aprox midnight so there is a window of 5 hours to get that mail sorted and distributed to our delivery offices, so really there is work for people in delivery offices at 5am. It has also become apparent that mail is being held back at mail centres and RDCs. On top of this Royal Mail has also approached the airport authorities requesting that new later flight times are introduced. This is all to give the impression that there is no need to start any earlier than 6am.

What a Whopper :d'oh!

The Truth

The real reasons Royal Mail want delivery officers to start later is to save money on the early morning shift allowances over the next 3 years. Royal Mail are also planning to reduce network lorries by 6% and introduce new double-decker lorries, so instead of two lorries arriving at different times only one double-decker lorry will arrive at the later time. What Royal Mail are also trying to do is create a larger window in arrival patterns for the introduction of walk sequencing machines.

Why lie to us? When 5 day weeks were introduced we were told that we would soon be going to later starts and at the time people were begining to warm to the idea. If only Royal Mail were up front with the CWU right from the start, maybe an agreement could be reached to introduce flexible start times, which would suit the wishes of the individual members whether it be a later or early start time, whilst securing the early morning shift allowance in some way.

This just goes to show people like ALAN LEIGHTON & ADAM CROZIER CAN NOT BE TRUSTED :no no

VOTE YES for industrial action and let's weed out the liars
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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manwithnovan wrote:Yep we only leave the bagged mailsort, any loose has to go. Problem is today was a killer as we had National Trust Mags & everyone in Devon seems to be a member
We had National Trust mags in on Saturday

A panic phone call got our DOM out of bed and she came in and said leave them till Monday.

They were terrified of break offs but isn't delaying the mail a sackable offence ( & illegal) ?????
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Never be scared of cutting off. I had an incident a few weeks back on a really busy saturday. Didn't get out of the office til 7.30. told the DOM i'd got enough work to last til my cut off time (10.30). In an effort to get me to the first del point earlier, the DOM did my redirections. When i left the office, i told the DOM i was only working to my time. He told me that i should take all the work cos i'd had a bit of help. The area rep and DSM got involved cos i stood firm. Since that day the DOM has never pressured any member of staff to work past their time. IT'S OPTIONAL. Don't get the guilt trip if you don't want to work over you don't have to. JUST MAKE SURE YOU INFORM YOUR DOM AT THE END OF PREP
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Your Dom came in on a Saturday ours never does!!!
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cruisey wrote:Never be scared of cutting off. I had an incident a few weeks back on a really busy saturday. Didn't get out of the office til 7.30. told the DOM i'd got enough work to last til my cut off time (10.30). In an effort to get me to the first del point earlier, the DOM did my redirections. When i left the office, i told the DOM i was only working to my time. He told me that i should take all the work cos i'd had a bit of help. The area rep and DSM got involved cos i stood firm. Since that day the DOM has never pressured any member of staff to work past their time. IT'S OPTIONAL. Don't get the guilt trip if you don't want to work over you don't have to. JUST MAKE SURE YOU INFORM YOUR DOM AT THE END OF PREP
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Re: LATER STARTS IT HURTS

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manwithnovan wrote:By the way should Royal Mail supply sun cream for us here in sunny Devon?
Yes mate, they will also supply sun hats and sun glasses. See you H & S Rep or contact your CWU Office
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Post by manwithnovan »

Thanks Zorro i will ask in the morning but i'm gonna draw the line on those hats :cool