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Consideration of Dismissal

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rhymesnme1
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Consideration of Dismissal

Post by rhymesnme1 »

Hi,
I have very recently been verbally told that I am on COD or Stage 3 and was previously verbally told I was on a Stage 2 but neither I have had a meeting about and or signed and agreed to.
I have left my recent sick absence at work but remember seeing that my Stage 1 had ended.

Thanks for reading.
pieoftheday
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

Post by pieoftheday »

Are you asking a question?
ted_e_bear
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

Post by ted_e_bear »

If you're asking whether or not you should be on cod then you'll have to provide your absence details for the last 12 months for someone to be able to give advice.
rhymesnme1
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

Post by rhymesnme1 »

pieoftheday wrote:
27 May 2023, 16:10
Are you asking a question?
Yes
rhymesnme1
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

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ted_e_bear wrote:
27 May 2023, 16:24
If you're asking whether or not you should be on cod then you'll have to provide your absence details for the last 12 months for someone to be able to give advice.
I am and, I am aware of that thank you.
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

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The way things are going in this bastard of a company, dismissal might be the best thing to happen to you since joining.
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

Post by aiden01 »

rhymesnme1 wrote:
27 May 2023, 19:58
ted_e_bear wrote:
27 May 2023, 16:24
If you're asking whether or not you should be on cod then you'll have to provide your absence details for the last 12 months for someone to be able to give advice.
I am and, I am aware of that thank you.
Give your absence details then otherwise why post on here for advice if you will not give clarity on your absence.
rhymesnme1
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

Post by rhymesnme1 »

DirtyHarry wrote:
27 May 2023, 20:40
The way things are going in this bastard of a company, dismissal might be the best thing to happen to you since joining.
Hmmmmmmm well, I still want to remain employed regardless.
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

Post by ted_e_bear »

aiden01 wrote:
27 May 2023, 22:45
rhymesnme1 wrote:
27 May 2023, 19:58
ted_e_bear wrote:
27 May 2023, 16:24
If you're asking whether or not you should be on cod then you'll have to provide your absence details for the last 12 months for someone to be able to give advice.
I am and, I am aware of that thank you.
Give your absence details then otherwise why post on here for advice if you will not give clarity on your absence.
That's what I thought, no one can help without knowing the details.
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

Post by rhymesnme1 »

I will get the details on Tuesday which as I said I have left at work. At least I have got the ball rolling and I will provide the football pitch details on Tuesday people.
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

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rhymesnme1 wrote:
27 May 2023, 16:03
Hi,
I have very recently been verbally told that I am on COD or Stage 3 and was previously verbally told I was on a Stage 2 but neither I have had a meeting about and or signed and agreed to.
I have left my recent sick absence at work but remember seeing that my Stage 1 had ended.

Thanks for reading.
If that's true make sure you contact the Union and request the Area Rep attend the meeting with you.

If they haven't followed the correct procedure, which seems likely, they should not be able to dismiss you.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Sadly I believe that Stage 1s and possibly Stage 2s as well get automatically issued, even though they shouldn't
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

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Stage 1 are always given at our place, stage 2 is decided on its merits.

They're pushing their luck issuing stage 1 regardless of the circumstances, but stage 2 is where the proverbial line in the sand should be drawn. That is the gateway to stage 3, and in our area, I haven't heard of anyone who has survived stage 3 for years now.

This is where we will see how effective the CWU is.

If it's any good at all, it will put a stop to issuing automatic stage 2s, and work to putting a stop to Royal Mail's practise of issuing automatic stage 1s.
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

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Ask yourself how any trade union can agree a policy with the disciplinary procedure that has sanctions attached with no right of appeal until the consideration for dismissal level?
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Re: Consideration of Dismissal

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I've not ever known anyone whose never had a Stage 1 automatically issued