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And it's off-Royal Mail Group National Agreement - Suspension of Ballot Timetable.

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carlosevenos
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Re: And it's off-Royal Mail Group National Agreement - Suspension of Ballot Timetable.

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Yeh how little care the union have in moving pt's up to ft's is disgusting. Many of us done well over full time hours for years, yet get pro rata payments and less delivery supplement/pension etc. Like they don't seem to care about us. Many full timers won't go a minute over for royal mail either. I don't blame them, but many part timers work their balls off and never get made up.
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They've just gone on live and said "we can't accept the narrative that it's the worker's fault and they need to work harder," but yet still endorse this agreement that literally makes them work harder in the busiest time of year for nothing plus the Flexi :nervous Also, said the pressure is now on RM to come back to them now. Okayyy, you tell me how pressure is on them when you've not even given them a deadline to sort these revisions out? They really just don't know what to do now.
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Absolute shambles
enskied
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Shadedpostie wrote:
25 May 2023, 11:15
They've just gone on live and said "we can't accept the narrative that it's the worker's fault and they need to work harder," but yet still endorse this agreement that literally makes them work harder in the busiest time of year for nothing plus the Flexi :nervous Also, said the pressure is now on RM to come back to them now. Okayyy, you tell me how pressure is on them when you've not even given them a deadline to sort these revisions out? They really just don't know what to do now.
The s**t revisions will not be altered... RM just said as much. They're here to stay.
Vote NO
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No back pay to April, the pay rise starts when the agreement is voted in. Confirmed by our area manager.
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Mungeys wrote:
25 May 2023, 13:11
No back pay to April, the pay rise starts when the agreement is voted in. Confirmed by our area manager.
And need to say yes to a lot of strings first, despite the no strings bluster.
carlosevenos
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At this rate, I doubt there'll be a payrise this year. Union have zero power at this point. I'm not striking anymore, after this shambles and losing more money, so don't see a good outcome anymore.
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Re: And it's off-Royal Mail Group National Agreement - Suspension of Ballot Timetable.

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Mungeys wrote:
25 May 2023, 13:11
No back pay to April, the pay rise starts when the agreement is voted in. Confirmed by our area manager.
Wrong. Once the deal is approved the new pay arrangements will be implemented with back pay from 1 April 2023.
Rommagic
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Get on with it cwu and rm.
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robson144 wrote:
25 May 2023, 14:29
Mungeys wrote:
25 May 2023, 13:11
No back pay to April, the pay rise starts when the agreement is voted in. Confirmed by our area manager.
Wrong. Once the deal is approved the new pay arrangements will be implemented with back pay from 1 April 2023.
Do you have the proof please?
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FirstPost wrote:
25 May 2023, 14:35
robson144 wrote:
25 May 2023, 14:29
Mungeys wrote:
25 May 2023, 13:11
No back pay to April, the pay rise starts when the agreement is voted in. Confirmed by our area manager.
Wrong. Once the deal is approved the new pay arrangements will be implemented with back pay from 1 April 2023.
Do you have the proof please?
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FirstPost
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Re: And it's off-Royal Mail Group National Agreement - Suspension of Ballot Timetable.

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robson144 wrote:
25 May 2023, 14:39
FirstPost wrote:
25 May 2023, 14:35
robson144 wrote:
25 May 2023, 14:29
Mungeys wrote:
25 May 2023, 13:11
No back pay to April, the pay rise starts when the agreement is voted in. Confirmed by our area manager.
Wrong. Once the deal is approved the new pay arrangements will be implemented with back pay from 1 April 2023.
Do you have the proof please?
Thanks
enskied
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Re: And it's off-Royal Mail Group National Agreement - Suspension of Ballot Timetable.

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carlosevenos wrote:
25 May 2023, 10:35
Yeh how little care the union have in moving pt's up to ft's is disgusting. Many of us done well over full time hours for years, yet get pro rata payments and less delivery supplement/pension etc. Like they don't seem to care about us. Many full timers won't go a minute over for royal mail either. I don't blame them, but many part timers work their balls off and never get made up.
That's exactly it Carlos. Catch 22
Royal mail keep you part time so you have to work extra to make ends meet.

Had part time workers refused to do that many more of them would have had their hours increased.

To late in the day now though.
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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
24 May 2023, 22:19
Call me cynical but I think by the end of next week we will get another update plus news of the extra £1000 lump sum and the ballot will be on again. The CWU save face and look like hero’s.
Nailed it.


Cards on the table time. We are being asked to give up a lot of terms and conditions for £500. Not a chance that will cut it.

£1500...there is a chance it will get voted in.
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enskied wrote:
25 May 2023, 18:22
carlosevenos wrote:
25 May 2023, 10:35
Yeh how little care the union have in moving pt's up to ft's is disgusting. Many of us done well over full time hours for years, yet get pro rata payments and less delivery supplement/pension etc. Like they don't seem to care about us. Many full timers won't go a minute over for royal mail either. I don't blame them, but many part timers work their balls off and never get made up.
That's exactly it Carlos. Catch 22
Royal mail keep you part time so you have to work extra to make ends meet.

Had part time workers refused to do that many more of them would have had their hours increased.

To late in the day now though.
you do know that pt to ft is based on seniority?
a pt with 10yrs service who works 0hrs overtime will get offered it before a pt with 9yrs service who does 20hrs