This union is an embarrassment. Two of the comments have said they'll be voting no only for the union to then respond and I s**t you not "then what?" It's a disgrace, whoever is in charge of their social media should be sacked. Sounds like a complete child with their responses in this dispute and this takes the cake. You can vote yes or no and give your reasons to do so, but to dismiss it so easily? Nah, just not on. This union has no intention of striking in the near future. I don't even want to believe they've done all this so they can secure their own jobs and damn the workers, but this is starting to look like it. They have completely washed their hands with this dispute and don't have any plans whatsoever if it comes back a no.
They have told you it is the best agreement that they can
get. What do you expect them to say if the vote comes back ‘no’? That is a perfectly valid response from the union, because there is no real answer to what happens next. It won’t be good though.
No, what they have given is a response that is completely and utterly childish in response to what people have decided because it doesn't match the outcome they want. It reads as a person that 1. Has completely given up with this dispute and 2. Is too arrogant and cannot come with a complete sound response. If they had come out and said this is it, this is the only deal that we get out of this dispute without the bullshit, people probably would be less pissed off by the union. There are people both on here and on other platforms that have made some solid arguments for and against this agreement. Me, I accept that the pay despite how s**t it is is more than likely all we are getting.
What I don't accept is union officials acting like school yard children in how they respond to its members and waving the victory flag around whilst people are still getting attacked in the workplace, especially on delivery.Someone on here mention that you had a union official waving a piece of paper during the selected committee. You tell me, is this appropriate behaviour a group of professionals that are suppose to be representing us? Or better yet, behaviour for a grown ass man in his 40s-50s?
It's took them WEEKS to slap into action by delaying the ballot after members have been telling them the offices are still pushing through these revisions. It makes them look like a bunch of fools, especially with them harping on how "RM cannot exist without the CWU" (a near enough quote from them when they broke out the agreement) . How exactly are people expected to respond to the CWU and agreement when RM are actively doing whatever the hell they want anyways? No wonder people are saying they've cancelled their memberships!
Because RM announced their final offer, we were balloted for further strike action, it resulted in a massive yes vote, yet despite that, a deal was reached that 99% matched that final offer. I know people don’t like to hear the truth on here, but there is no more ground to be gained. If this deal is not accepted, there will be no more strike action. You will continue doing the same job in even worse conditions than outlined in the agreement. That is why the union responded in such a way - there is nothing else they can do going forward.
Because RM announced their final offer, we were balloted for further strike action, it resulted in a massive yes vote, yet despite that, a deal was reached that 99% matched that final offer. I know people don’t like to hear the truth on here, but there is no more ground to be gained. If this deal is not accepted, there will be no more strike action. You will continue doing the same job in even worse conditions than outlined in the agreement. That is why the union responded in such a way - there is nothing else they can do going forward.
Yet more speculating and scare mongering from Lou, some things never change…
Let's see what Lou says when they suddenly offer the extra bung just before the ballot.
You know, the one that even reps on here have pretty much guaranteed is coming.
But, hey, there's nothing more to offer, right?
Let's see what Lou says when they suddenly offer the extra bung just before the ballot.
You know, the one that even reps on here have pretty much guaranteed is coming.
But, hey, there's nothing more to offer, right?
Finding a few more quid before the vote is one thing, expecting somehow that a no result will turn back the clocks and we will pretend we aren’t working for a privatised company and we will receive a recession breaking pay-rise on the same T&Cs, is another. The business is bleeding money right now, unless you have seen the books and can prove otherwise?
If there is more to offer in the event of a no result, why do you think they are even scrambling to find this money and are begging you to vote for this deal along with PEC members likewise? What do you know that they don’t in regard what we could achieve with a no vote?
Let's see what Lou says when they suddenly offer the extra bung just before the ballot.
You know, the one that even reps on here have pretty much guaranteed is coming.
But, hey, there's nothing more to offer, right?
Finding a few more quid before the vote is one thing, expecting somehow that a no result will turn back the clocks and we will pretend we aren’t working for a privatised company and we will receive a recession breaking pay-rise on the same T&Cs, is another. The business is bleeding money right now, unless you have seen the books and can prove otherwise?
If there is more to offer in the event of a no result, why do you think they are even scrambling to find this money and are begging you to vote for this deal along with PEC members likewise? What do you know that they don’t in regard what we could achieve with a no vote?
More doom and gloom as usual from Lou , You must be a joy to live with Lou ,
Vote yes or the end of the world is nigh , Lou warned you first .
Let's see what Lou says when they suddenly offer the extra bung just before the ballot.
You know, the one that even reps on here have pretty much guaranteed is coming.
But, hey, there's nothing more to offer, right?
Finding a few more quid before the vote is one thing, expecting somehow that a no result will turn back the clocks and we will pretend we aren’t working for a privatised company and we will receive a recession breaking pay-rise on the same T&Cs, is another. The business is bleeding money right now, unless you have seen the books and can prove otherwise?
If there is more to offer in the event of a no result, why do you think they are even scrambling to find this money and are begging you to vote for this deal along with PEC members likewise? What do you know that they don’t in regard what we could achieve with a no vote?
More doom and gloom as usual from Lou , You must be a joy to live with Lou ,
Vote yes or the end of the world is nigh , Lou warned you first .
He has valid points though RMs easy days have gone every privatised corporation goes for profit and bonus culture "its nothing personal its just buisness".
If there is an extra bung just before the ballot we should be grateful and accept it with appreciation.
You can't squeeze blood out of a stone. If the union say this is the best deal we will ever get, then we should believe them and vote Yes on the ballot.
It's alright a few bully boys on here shouting and bawling for a No vote, kidding and swanking when they have a few quid in their back pockets.
Let's see what Lou says when they suddenly offer the extra bung just before the ballot.
You know, the one that even reps on here have pretty much guaranteed is coming.
But, hey, there's nothing more to offer, right?
Finding a few more quid before the vote is one thing, expecting somehow that a no result will turn back the clocks and we will pretend we aren’t working for a privatised company and we will receive a recession breaking pay-rise on the same T&Cs, is another. The business is bleeding money right now, unless you have seen the books and can prove otherwise?
If there is more to offer in the event of a no result, why do you think they are even scrambling to find this money and are begging you to vote for this deal along with PEC members likewise? What do you know that they don’t in regard what we could achieve with a no vote?
If you haven't seen the books and can prove otherwise then how can you possibly know that the business is bleeding money right now?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Let's see what Lou says when they suddenly offer the extra bung just before the ballot.
You know, the one that even reps on here have pretty much guaranteed is coming.
But, hey, there's nothing more to offer, right?
Finding a few more quid before the vote is one thing, expecting somehow that a no result will turn back the clocks and we will pretend we aren’t working for a privatised company and we will receive a recession breaking pay-rise on the same T&Cs, is another. The business is bleeding money right now, unless you have seen the books and can prove otherwise?
If there is more to offer in the event of a no result, why do you think they are even scrambling to find this money and are begging you to vote for this deal along with PEC members likewise? What do you know that they don’t in regard what we could achieve with a no vote?
If you haven't seen the books and can prove otherwise then how can you possibly know that the business is bleeding money right now?
If there is an extra bung just before the ballot we should be grateful and accept it with appreciation.
You can't squeeze blood out of a stone. If the union say this is the best deal we will ever get, then we should believe them and vote Yes on the ballot.
It's alright a few bully boys on here shouting and bawling for a No vote, kidding and swanking when they have a few quid in their back pockets.
This deal isn't about squeezing blood out of a stone and unless you've been living in a cave for the past year this dispute was never about pay. Why should anyone believe this union? They have a done a complete U-turn on their intentions from a no strings pay rise ballot last year. They have messed up on strike days, they had an overwhelming mandate to strike this year and never used it. Something doesn't add up and my gut feeling is that the Union leadership are not telling us the full story on why we should vote on this shocking deal. They should first admit that it is poor deal for its members.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Let's see what Lou says when they suddenly offer the extra bung just before the ballot.
You know, the one that even reps on here have pretty much guaranteed is coming.
But, hey, there's nothing more to offer, right?
Finding a few more quid before the vote is one thing, expecting somehow that a no result will turn back the clocks and we will pretend we aren’t working for a privatised company and we will receive a recession breaking pay-rise on the same T&Cs, is another. The business is bleeding money right now, unless you have seen the books and can prove otherwise?
If there is more to offer in the event of a no result, why do you think they are even scrambling to find this money and are begging you to vote for this deal along with PEC members likewise? What do you know that they don’t in regard what we could achieve with a no vote?
If you haven't seen the books and can prove otherwise then how can you possibly know that the business is bleeding money right now?
Because the union has agreed.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
