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norris9
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by norris9 »

The revisions are ridiculous. Everyone knows it.

There's 10 boxes of mail backlog sitting by my frame daily. Impossible to catch up and only going to get worse as they are going to add even more onto our rounds. What's the point in creating an unmanageable workload? Soon I'll only be able to take half my round out with me and i'll have to alternate between doing 2 days mail for 1 half of my round and then 2 days of mail for the other half the following day and so on.
pieoftheday
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by pieoftheday »

norris9 wrote:
11 May 2023, 16:56
The revisions are ridiculous. Everyone knows it.

There's 10 boxes of mail backlog sitting by my frame daily. Impossible to catch up and only going to get worse as they are going to add even more onto our rounds. What's the point in creating an unmanageable workload? Soon I'll only be able to take half my round out with me and i'll have to alternate between doing 2 days mail for 1 half of my round and then 2 days of mail for the other half the following day and so on.
Someone on another thread advocating that very way of working but with just one person per paired duty
sixfoottwo
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by sixfoottwo »

pieoftheday wrote:
11 May 2023, 17:00
norris9 wrote:
11 May 2023, 16:56
The revisions are ridiculous. Everyone knows it.

There's 10 boxes of mail backlog sitting by my frame daily. Impossible to catch up and only going to get worse as they are going to add even more onto our rounds. What's the point in creating an unmanageable workload? Soon I'll only be able to take half my round out with me and i'll have to alternate between doing 2 days mail for 1 half of my round and then 2 days of mail for the other half the following day and so on.
Someone on another thread advocating that very way of working but with just one person per paired duty
This is what I have to do after the revision added 2hrs onto my existing duty and it was just about doable before this :no no

Past caring now, just do what I can and go home on time, not 1 minute given.
pieoftheday
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by pieoftheday »

sixfoottwo wrote:
11 May 2023, 19:04
pieoftheday wrote:
11 May 2023, 17:00
norris9 wrote:
11 May 2023, 16:56
The revisions are ridiculous. Everyone knows it.

There's 10 boxes of mail backlog sitting by my frame daily. Impossible to catch up and only going to get worse as they are going to add even more onto our rounds. What's the point in creating an unmanageable workload? Soon I'll only be able to take half my round out with me and i'll have to alternate between doing 2 days mail for 1 half of my round and then 2 days of mail for the other half the following day and so on.
Someone on another thread advocating that very way of working but with just one person per paired duty
This is what I have to do after the revision added 2hrs onto my existing duty and it was just about doable before this :no no

Past caring now, just do what I can and go home on time, not 1 minute given.
Did you work on your own on a none paired duty and they've added 2hrs worth on top?
ted_e_bear
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by ted_e_bear »

Shadedpostie wrote:
11 May 2023, 13:59
This union is an embarrassment. Two of the comments have said they'll be voting no only for the union to then respond and I s**t you not "then what?" It's a disgrace, whoever is in charge of their social media should be sacked. Sounds like a complete child with their responses in this dispute and this takes the cake. You can vote yes or no and give your reasons to do so, but to dismiss it so easily? Nah, just not on. This union has no intention of striking in the near future. I don't even want to believe they've done all this so they can secure their own jobs and damn the workers, but this is starting to look like it. They have completely washed their hands with this dispute and don't have any plans whatsoever if it comes back a no.
I think it's that bald prick with the beard who's in charge of the CWU social media, the guy who held a home made sign up in parliament saying vote no, the guy who "hosts" the live online sessions who says comment 'i love my union" or whatever bollocks it was, the guys a complete w ⚓
redlen
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by redlen »

ted_e_bear wrote:
11 May 2023, 19:13
Shadedpostie wrote:
11 May 2023, 13:59
This union is an embarrassment. Two of the comments have said they'll be voting no only for the union to then respond and I s**t you not "then what?" It's a disgrace, whoever is in charge of their social media should be sacked. Sounds like a complete child with their responses in this dispute and this takes the cake. You can vote yes or no and give your reasons to do so, but to dismiss it so easily? Nah, just not on. This union has no intention of striking in the near future. I don't even want to believe they've done all this so they can secure their own jobs and damn the workers, but this is starting to look like it. They have completely washed their hands with this dispute and don't have any plans whatsoever if it comes back a no.
I think it's that bald prick with the beard who's in charge of the CWU social media, the guy who held a home made sign up in parliament saying vote no, the guy who "hosts" the live online sessions who says comment 'i love my union" or whatever bollocks it was, the guys a complete w ⚓
That bald prick is Chris Webb and in full agreement. He is in a job well above his pay grade
CHUCKYPIG
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by CHUCKYPIG »

This is ridiculous. Some of us just want to know if we are getting some cash or not and back on strike. Either way we just want to know.

CWU are pathetic. For a year now they keep promising deadlines and time and time again they keep failing and kicking the can down the road........ and we are just left hanging.

F Royal Fail and F CWU too they are both a waste of space.
LouBarlow
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by LouBarlow »

Shadedpostie wrote:
11 May 2023, 13:59
This union is an embarrassment. Two of the comments have said they'll be voting no only for the union to then respond and I s**t you not "then what?" It's a disgrace, whoever is in charge of their social media should be sacked. Sounds like a complete child with their responses in this dispute and this takes the cake. You can vote yes or no and give your reasons to do so, but to dismiss it so easily? Nah, just not on. This union has no intention of striking in the near future. I don't even want to believe they've done all this so they can secure their own jobs and damn the workers, but this is starting to look like it. They have completely washed their hands with this dispute and don't have any plans whatsoever if it comes back a no.
They have told you it is the best agreement that they can get. What do you expect them to say if the vote comes back ‘no’? That is a perfectly valid response from the union, because there is no real answer to what happens next. It won’t be good though.
richietns
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by richietns »

RM will just keep on pushing things through if there's a no vote they have no other choice there not gonna just sit down for another year and be good employers all of a sudden.
Poppyellie69
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by Poppyellie69 »

Why agree to something u can't bloody sell!! Shambolic and embarrassing!! I'm voting no friar tuck them all!! Corruption at its very best 👌
Poppyellie69
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by Poppyellie69 »

Time for ward and his cronies to go!! I'm voting no
Acca Dacca
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by Acca Dacca »

LouBarlow wrote:
11 May 2023, 19:31
Shadedpostie wrote:
11 May 2023, 13:59
This union is an embarrassment. Two of the comments have said they'll be voting no only for the union to then respond and I s**t you not "then what?" It's a disgrace, whoever is in charge of their social media should be sacked. Sounds like a complete child with their responses in this dispute and this takes the cake. You can vote yes or no and give your reasons to do so, but to dismiss it so easily? Nah, just not on. This union has no intention of striking in the near future. I don't even want to believe they've done all this so they can secure their own jobs and damn the workers, but this is starting to look like it. They have completely washed their hands with this dispute and don't have any plans whatsoever if it comes back a no.
They have told you it is the best agreement that they can get. What do you expect them to say if the vote comes back ‘no’? That is a perfectly valid response from the union, because there is no real answer to what happens next. It won’t be good though.
How do they know its the best deal they can get?

According to them the ''offer'' changed after strike action. It changed again after more strike action. And it changed again after a second ballot came back YES for more strike action.

They didnt take RM at their word that the ''best and final offer'' was really the best and final offer as they have recently tried to tell us all that they got some improvements on it. So what makes this now the ''really really we mean it best and final offer''?

How can they say the deal cannot be improved anymore after the workforce reject the ''deal'' on the table?

The answer is they cant because they dont know that its the best deal on offer and dont know that it cant be bettered.

We will never know unless we vote NO.

They liked to tell us that RM need the workforce on side to make the changes, they liked to tell us that Royal Mail are DESPERATE for an agreement

If both of those were true - and the workforce reject Royal Mail's proposals and crap offer - it stands to reason that there is at least a chance, if not a certainty, that RM budge in a few areas
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sixfoottwo
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by sixfoottwo »

pieoftheday wrote:
11 May 2023, 19:12
sixfoottwo wrote:
11 May 2023, 19:04
pieoftheday wrote:
11 May 2023, 17:00
norris9 wrote:
11 May 2023, 16:56
The revisions are ridiculous. Everyone knows it.

There's 10 boxes of mail backlog sitting by my frame daily. Impossible to catch up and only going to get worse as they are going to add even more onto our rounds. What's the point in creating an unmanageable workload? Soon I'll only be able to take half my round out with me and i'll have to alternate between doing 2 days mail for 1 half of my round and then 2 days of mail for the other half the following day and so on.
Someone on another thread advocating that very way of working but with just one person per paired duty
This is what I have to do after the revision added 2hrs onto my existing duty and it was just about doable before this :no no

Past caring now, just do what I can and go home on time, not 1 minute given.
Did you work on your own on a none paired duty and they've added 2hrs worth on top?
Yes, singleton duty.
pieoftheday
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by pieoftheday »

sixfoottwo wrote:
11 May 2023, 20:29
pieoftheday wrote:
11 May 2023, 19:12
sixfoottwo wrote:
11 May 2023, 19:04
pieoftheday wrote:
11 May 2023, 17:00
norris9 wrote:
11 May 2023, 16:56
The revisions are ridiculous. Everyone knows it.

There's 10 boxes of mail backlog sitting by my frame daily. Impossible to catch up and only going to get worse as they are going to add even more onto our rounds. What's the point in creating an unmanageable workload? Soon I'll only be able to take half my round out with me and i'll have to alternate between doing 2 days mail for 1 half of my round and then 2 days of mail for the other half the following day and so on.
Someone on another thread advocating that very way of working but with just one person per paired duty
This is what I have to do after the revision added 2hrs onto my existing duty and it was just about doable before this :no no

Past caring now, just do what I can and go home on time, not 1 minute given.
Did you work on your own on a none paired duty and they've added 2hrs worth on top?
Yes, singleton duty.
It's a scene alright
dazzler123
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Re: Ballot timetable

Post by dazzler123 »

norris9 wrote:
11 May 2023, 16:56
The revisions are ridiculous. Everyone knows it.

Past caring now, just do what I can and go home on time, not 1 minute given.
this is the exact phrase ive jokingly been saying around the office recently