RMCtv : Pay and change offer - your questions answered

[richietns]

It will also lead to people milking the first absence.

If anything it will increase the time people take off sick.

So as we face an attack on our terms and conditions, due in part they say to people abusing the system, your response is to go on a public forum and state that you will abuse the system even more.
Brilliant.

Dont think thats what they are saying its more thats logically going to just happen if RM abuse our sick pay,PS.they've just went on public media saying f**k your sick benefits.

[Nickvilla20]

It will also lead to people milking the first absence.

If anything it will increase the time people take off sick.

So as we face an attack on our terms and conditions, due in part they say to people abusing the system, your response is to go on a public forum and state that you will abuse the system even more.
Brilliant.

What you on about? Where did I say I would abuse the system?

It’s obvious that people will take more time off if they know if they have another absence they won’t get paid for it.

[Cedar_Room]

Be it you agree with what has been said or not, you have to give credit for the professionalism shown in updating employees.
Straight talking with no horseplay or tomfoolery.

Something Chris Webb take notice of.

Well said Filthy Len

Proving,once more that you only post top level content & are anything but a banter account. Keep it up Filthy Len & I hope you had a fantastic Easter

Looking forward to more of your insight

[Dogbone1510]

So serious question if you have sick for the 2nd time in the year will u get ssp in the 1st 3 days or do you get 0?
Then full.pay

[denhamhoop]

So serious question if you have sick for the 2nd time in the year will u get ssp in the 1st 3 days or do you get 0?
Then full.pay

SSP does not get paid for 3 days of absence the Government only deals in Full Weeks so that will be zero for those 3 days according to Ricky if you proceed to be off for 6 months in that second absence you will be paid full pay for the rest of the absence.

[denhamhoop]

I have a genuine question nowhere does it mention what happens if your absence is caused thanks to an Industrial Injury(Yes I know Management make it very hard to actually report these issues) Will these be treated by the same criteria as I used to work with someone previously who had been knocked off his delivery bike breaking his hip and causing long term problems which every time he had to attend hospital for follow up procedures it was a battle for him and the CWU to get Management to use their "Discretion" and not apply the Attendance Procedure to them

[Acca Dacca]

So serious question if you have sick for the 2nd time in the year will u get ssp in the 1st 3 days or do you get 0?
Then full.pay

SSP first three days IS zero

And McAuley has clarified that first three days of second absence will be undpaid

[Grads75]

It will also lead to people milking the first absence.

If anything it will increase the time people take off sick.

So as we face an attack on our terms and conditions, due in part they say to people abusing the system, your response is to go on a public forum and state that you will abuse the system even more.
Brilliant.

Who gives a f**k anymore

[FilthyBloke]

I have a genuine question nowhere does it mention what happens if your absence is caused thanks to an Industrial Injury(Yes I know Management make it very hard to actually report these issues) Will these be treated by the same criteria as I used to work with someone previously who had been knocked off his delivery bike breaking his hip and causing long term problems which every time he had to attend hospital for follow up procedures it was a battle for him and the CWU to get Management to use their "Discretion" and not apply the Attendance Procedure to them

Yeah there are a few in my office who are ring fenced with certain reasons.
I wonder if you would be able to ask the manager to put the first three days as annual leave. At least you’d still get paid if money was an issue…
Or ask for indoor work if possible?

[Dogbone1510]

My thoughts exactly I had a accident on duty causing a break to a lower limb which still causes me issues and has also caused a back injury these will probably finish me off eventually and the 2nd sick in a year when it was on Duty and possible on going issues such we should be protected as in my opinion should all walking posties as being out in all weather's and intact on the body should be probably double what's on offer

[Splappy_McSplap]

A lot of people will get wise to the new sick pay policy, and the first time they go off sick, even if they are fine to go back to work, they will just take an extra three days because they won't get paid the next time they go off sick, so they will withdraw three days worth of labour to fix that.

That's all this will achieve.

[Boltonian-White]

A lot of people will get wise to the new sick pay policy, and the first time they go off sick, even if they are fine to go back to work, they will just take an extra three days because they won't get paid the next time they go off sick, so they will withdraw three days worth of labour to fix that.

That's all this will achieve.

And eventually full pay will be taken off the table as RM will say the system is being abused. Exactly what they want? Who is it advising RM again?

[richietns]

A lot of people will get wise to the new sick pay policy, and the first time they go off sick, even if they are fine to go back to work, they will just take an extra three days because they won't get paid the next time they go off sick, so they will withdraw three days worth of labour to fix that.

That's all this will achieve.

And eventually full pay will be taken off the table as RM will say the system is being abused. Exactly what they want? Who is it advising RM again?

They gonna do it anyway one way or another they'll always blame the worker...just look at the revisions you haven't got enough on your round.

[mjd24]

PLEASE CAN SOMEONE CLARIFY! So, when they keep saying statuary sick pay for first 3 days of 2nd absence - does that mean £0?

Are they being total disingenuous turds and wording it like that rather than the more straightforward NO PAY for first 3 days of 2nd absence?

Im really struggling mentally now having been given lots more to do on delivery whilst at the same time potentially having sickness rights taken away!!

[Acca Dacca]

PLEASE CAN SOMEONE CLARIFY! So, when they keep saying statuary sick pay for first 3 days of 2nd absence - does that mean £0?

Are they being total disingenuous turds and wording it like that rather than the more straightforward NO PAY for first 3 days of 2nd absence?

Im really struggling mentally now having been given lots more to do on delivery whilst at the same time potentially having sickness rights taken away!!

Yes

It means £0

And Ricky McAuley confirms it at 7 mins of the video

First three days of second absence will be unpaid is their proposal