LTB 575/19 - Average Pay on Leave : 'Case Management Order' has been introduced by the President of ET's which will transfer all existing and new cases to the Tribunal Centre in Bristol

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 04 Jun 2020, 13:02

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Dexydog · Post by **Dexydog** » 06 Oct 2020, 13:56

Preliminary hearing was yesterday in Bristol.
Anyone have any info?

MinTee · Post by **MinTee** » 07 Oct 2020, 19:00

Dexydog wrote:Preliminary hearing was yesterday in Bristol.
Anyone have any info?

Seems union can’t even be arsed to update us let alone get our money owed

wallan · Post by **wallan** » 08 Oct 2020, 09:11

MinTee wrote:
Dexydog wrote:Preliminary hearing was yesterday in Bristol.
Anyone have any info?
Seems union can’t even be arsed to update us let alone get our money owed

EMail CWU HQ for an update

Post by **stodgy88** » 28 Dec 2020, 11:14

IF EVR is offered as part of the new deal (If voted through ) would it be in Royal mails interest to delay any changes till the evr,s are through the door ,therefore saving on payouts ?

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 28 Dec 2020, 11:38

stodgy88 wrote: ↑
28 Dec 2020, 11:14
IF EVR is offered as part of the new deal (If voted through ) would it be in Royal mails interest to delay any changes till the evr,s are through the door ,therefore saving on payouts ?

No.
The vast majority of EVRs will be full-time and not affected to the same extent as part-time staff and the cost of keeping surplus staff in the business would be far higher than any pay out.

They're stalling because they're hoping for a sympathetic change in case law either in an RM case or any other similar ET.

Case law does frequently change especially with a reduced threat of ECJ intervention now we've Brexited.

Post by **stodgy88** » 28 Dec 2020, 11:46

Thanks for that.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 08 Jan 2021, 08:11

Average Holiday Pay – Tribunal in June for England & Wales.
- Scotland & NI, date still to be sorted.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 13 Jan 2021, 10:52

How much do either side think this is going to cost Royal Mail?
Has that cost been factored into the next pay rise of 1%?

If not how are they going to pay it?

Post by **HTPostman** » 14 Jan 2021, 18:06

clashcityrocker wrote: ↑
13 Jan 2021, 10:52
How much do either side think this is going to cost Royal Mail?
Has that cost been factored into the next pay rise of 1%?

If not how are they going to pay it?

It seems to me like RM are placing all their bets on getting let off. Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s some technicality which means they don’t have to pay it and especially don’t have to backpay it. Going on recent years events they seem to have lawyers who get them results.

Does seem a bit like putting all your money on red on the roulette wheel though.

On a personal level, I feel the time for bargaining is now, or at least it was during dispute talks. At a risk of repeating myself I realise if RM do have to pay millions out it could have dire consequences. I’d have happily accepted an out of court settlement, part of the owed money with my contract being made to FT. If they are found ‘guilty’ and then come out with a sob story and try to bargain it will be too late IMO. On the other hand if they do get let off I’ll never work a minute of OT for them again. But that’s just my stance.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 15 Jan 2021, 08:42

Apparently, the news about the Government looking at reducing some employment burdens on businesses may affect "Average Pay on Leave", the 48-hour working week limit being repealed seemed the biggest news, but some articles made mention of this subject.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 15 Jan 2021, 08:52

The Brexit premium...

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