Equalisation

[TopperGas]

Just means the people who used to do overtime won't do it anymore it'll come back to bite them

Why would the old contracts stop? Are they getting any less?

I assume they are referring to just new contracts? However it does mean old contracts are unlikely to now ever see the OT rate increased.

[SMS1969]

Just means the people who used to do overtime won't do it anymore it'll come back to bite them

Why would the old contracts stop? Are they getting any less?

I assume they are referring to just new contracts? However it does mean old contracts are unlikely to now ever see the OT rate increased.

Yeah will never happen, it just goes up with the pay rise, but ends up never more than the standard rate.

[Clappedoutpostie]

I’m on 40 hours - new contract for 30 months
If I average 2x4 hr SAs a week I will be earning over £2000 less PA than I am now
So whereas I had to do 48 hrs a week to bring my wage up to a decent (legacy) amount,now I will have to do at least 52 hours a week to reach the same amount - assuming I get the chance
And the gap between what I gross and what a legacy Will gross doing those hours of OT will be even higher than previous

I don’t think your allowed to do SA on the new contract but I could be wrong.

[Agencyoap]

I’m on 40 hours - new contract for 30 months
If I average 2x4 hr SAs a week I will be earning over £2000 less PA than I am now
So whereas I had to do 48 hrs a week to bring my wage up to a decent (legacy) amount,now I will have to do at least 52 hours a week to reach the same amount - assuming I get the chance
And the gap between what I gross and what a legacy Will gross doing those hours of OT will be even higher than previous

I don’t think your allowed to do SA on the new contract but I could be wrong.

Yeah we can but it’s classed as OT for new contracts not as an SA
But you still have to apply for it
Thing is all of our daily IPS (Parcels small and DP) are run as SAs
You apply for them each day 2 weeks in advance and you get allocated a number of 3 or 4 hour shifts dependant on number of people applying

[Shaugi]

Just means the people who used to do overtime won't do it anymore it'll come back to bite them

Why would the old contracts stop? Are they getting any less?

I’m on 40 hours - new contract for 30 months
If I average 2x4 hr SAs a week I will be earning over £2000 less PA than I am now
So whereas I had to do 48 hrs a week to bring my wage up to a decent (legacy) amount,now I will have to do at least 52 hours a week to reach the same amount - assuming I get the chance
And the gap between what I gross and what a legacy Will gross doing those hours of OT will be even higher than previous

Exactly this. OT at a higher rate used to be a benefit, OT at standard rate is a liability. By the time the tax man has had his cut we'll all be better off not doing any OT

[scotchy1962]

I know it no longer affects me but i am struggling to see why the union would endorse this.
I thought the idea was to get a pay rise and try to get the new contract workers some sort of uplift which takes them closer to legacy.
For the life of me i cannot see any reason to give someone a pay rise and then take it off their o/t rate which they rely on to get by.
Do you not want the new contracts to join the union or are they not joining in enough numbers for you to give a feck.
Is this really what it has come too, screwing over part of the workforce to aid the others, lovely!
Hopefully the membership will have a bit of humanity still in them and vote this down.

[world class male]

our negotiating team sold them yes vote on the last deal that we would all be equal by sept25, something that was never going to happen whoever run/owned RMG
then give them a kick in the ghoulies and say it's now jan27, probably then extended again,
they promised all that our pay trickle for years 2 & 3 meant that we would all get an inflation based raise, no matter
if it ends up a "no" vote then i really hope that all of those involved in negotiations over what seems an eternity admit they cannot do anything else and will all resign to give way to someone else to have a go at representing us, otherwise more and more will quit the union