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aiden01
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sixfoottwo wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 20:05
grchpo wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 20:02
If they announce 1 or2 day strikes they can forget it, that will not work. How many would strike?
Quite a few in our office said they wouldn't! they would for a week though!!
You either strike are you don't ffs.
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FilthyBloke wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:16
redlen wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 18:48
The leadership of Thompson and his crew have brought RM to the brink of collapse. The priority of the CWU will be to protect an defend members whatever the outcome.


Yet again instead of consensus and thoughtful deliberation in bringing an end to the dispute at this late stage

Fighting talk to stir the pot again as a press release to put the backs up again with Royal Mail
It’s one of the reasons a lot of offices are toxic. The posters and notice boards are full of things like “a storm is coming” and implying that the managers are basically the anti christ. That the company is always against us.

It’s an Us vs Them mentality and the CWU feed off it.
I have a family member who works for the nhs and the union posters there are basically help line numbers and contacts for advice. Not “the war is coming. Stand by your union. Solidarity…..”

It’s like 1942 propaganda. And a lot of issues on my office are because the staff won’t budge from their ‘duty’.

Luckily I don’t subscribe to it so I can miss the gate meetings and weekly videos and letters in the post. The CWU basically ring a bell and shout “the end is nigh! Only by joining us can you be saved!”

I think If they actually did what they are good at and stopped with petty insults at the management and the twitter feed that seems to be run by a 13 year old, it would be better for all of us.

The thing is they rile everyone up, come out with empty slogans and trip over their own feet.

They should focus on the deal and not sound bites.
So filthy i take it you believe that RM have behaved impeccably? In the interest of fairness perhaps you should also mention the other board on the workplace wall and the stuff it has on it, big brother is watching you stuff and 1984 style dictat that gets everybodies backs up. Anti-union slander should always be balanced with anti-management slander to see both sides not just yours. Look i know you think the unions s**t we all get it!! Just try to be balanced in your argument otherwise we will all think you are a RM stooge and i am sure you arent.
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Post by guardianangel »

aiden01 wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 23:23
sixfoottwo wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 20:05
grchpo wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 20:02
If they announce 1 or2 day strikes they can forget it, that will not work. How many would strike?
Quite a few in our office said they wouldn't! they would for a week though!!
You either strike are you don't ffs.
i'd definitely go for a week,1 or 2 days is pointless now but i'd still strike any day of the week.
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Post by LouBarlow »

daveyeff wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:26
got no money and we are STILL picking parcels up from peoples doors for nowt. :arrrghhh
How many more times is this nonsense going to be posted? They are paying the postage! I.e. your wages!
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sweepster70 wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 22:15
rambo1 wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 21:46
sweepster70 wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 21:34
rambo1 wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 21:28
sindba wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:10
Thompson and his mob have destroyed Royal Mail with their greed, arrogance and stupidity.

We should strike and strike hard. It would be nothing more than a nail in the coffin.

If the only way the company survives is to turm us into deliveroo style modern slaves - then we're just as well working for deliveroo.

Strike. Burn the bastards. Enough is enough.
Deliveroo just cut 9% of it's workforce. Didn't you hear?


Just proves that a gig economy employer doesn't give a s**t about it's minimum wage staff.
All it proves is that deliveroo isn't making money any more. Evidently people have started cooking for themselves according to the new. Which is a good thing. But not for deliveroo. If they can't afford to keep the staff, they're going to let them go aren't they? It's not a charity. Same as here at RM. Some people still think the company owes them a job, even if the company aren't working out. Welcome to the real world where business hires and fires in accordance with the work they have or have not. When was the last time Royal Mail made people redundant? Not including the recent VR and the lucky few EVR.


Do you really believe that about people cooking for themselves? We're getting fatter and getting lazier. In todays greed, if a company made £50,000000 last year and made £49,999999 this year, they would class it as a loss and cut back. The real world needs to change and the workers need to stand up for themselves.
Do you really think it's OK to hire and fire people at will?
Hopefully people are starting to cook for themselves again. As you said it might solve the obesity problem we have and it's way less expensive.
Probably not ok to fire and hire as and when but companies do it to survive. Think about it if you ran your own business with say just 10 employees and your work started to dry up, you would have a choice to make. Carry on employing all of these people until your money ran out and you lost your business, or trim the number down to what you need?
Business is a tough, well, business. May sound harsh but that's how the world works. Maybe you'd prefer to live in old soviet union?
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

rambo1 wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:11
Hopefully people are starting to cook for themselves again. As you said it might solve the obesity problem we have and it's way less expensive.
So many food items you can taste when they've changed the recipes, often less herbs and spices in things, some things now taste drier than they used to. Some sauces seem more watery, don't thicken up when cooking as much as they used to
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LouBarlow wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:00
daveyeff wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:26
got no money and we are STILL picking parcels up from peoples doors for nowt. :arrrghhh
How many more times is this nonsense going to be posted? They are paying the postage! I.e. your wages!
Yes but they could be paying a fee as well like they are meant to especially given RMs finance's your missing the point.
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Post by wallan »

richietns wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:37
LouBarlow wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:00
daveyeff wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:26
got no money and we are STILL picking parcels up from peoples doors for nowt. :arrrghhh
How many more times is this nonsense going to be posted? They are paying the postage! I.e. your wages!
Yes but they could be paying a fee as well like they are meant to especially given RMs finance's your missing the point.
Also RM are Saving By Not Paying A Fee to the Local Sub Post Office For Handling The Items
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Post by britwrit »

PFdriver488 wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 18:38
The Board of RM meet on Wednesday to prepare for an audit of the business finances before statements to the market on 17th May. They need to decide then whether they would rather face administration or an agreement for change with the CWU.
According to the whole hour's worth of Googling I did...

If a business is put under adminstration, than its board of directors is suspended while an administrator comes in. (And trading in its stocks stop.)

So, basically, this would be the board saying, "Screw this. We quit?"
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Re: Reps Online Briefing today...

Post by priority102 »

richietns wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:37
LouBarlow wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:00
daveyeff wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:26
got no money and we are STILL picking parcels up from peoples doors for nowt. :arrrghhh
How many more times is this nonsense going to be posted? They are paying the postage! I.e. your wages!
Yes but they could be paying a fee as well like they are meant to especially given RMs finance's your missing the point.
What many forget, is that Post Office is no longer part of RM and is now a completely separate business out to make a profit just like RM, and as such RM will have to pay a fee to Post Office for all the mail items they accept over the counter on RM's behalf. That extra fee, along with all of RM's normal operating costs (wages,fleet,buildings etc etc) ALSO has to come out of the original postage fee paid by the customer when sending said item(s).

Even by offering free doorstep collection, RM save all of those extra Post Office fees, and they are already paying you the postie to go to the door anyway. By getting the customer to purchase online postage direct from RM, and you collecting the items from the door you are already being paid to go to, RM are able to keep the full amount of postage paid by the customer and keep it all in house.
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Post by LouBarlow »

richietns wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:37
LouBarlow wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:00
daveyeff wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:26
got no money and we are STILL picking parcels up from peoples doors for nowt. :arrrghhh
How many more times is this nonsense going to be posted? They are paying the postage! I.e. your wages!
Yes but they could be paying a fee as well like they are meant to especially given RMs finance's your missing the point.
It is in Royal Mail’s benefit to deal on a one to one basis with the customer. They do not want them sending items via the post office when they have to give them a cut of the money. You are encouraging more people to use the company by making it convenient to send parcels. If you charge them for the privilege then you will likely lose that business entirely, and people will resort to sending parcels the old fashioned way.

This is all the while ignoring the point you are missing, in that it isn’t a ‘free’ service, which is what the poster I actually replied to, implied. And the free option runs out next week. It will be interesting to see if they extend it again, but anecdotally, collections have dried up on my round anyway. We rarely see them now.
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Post by richietns »

LouBarlow wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 09:52
richietns wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:37
LouBarlow wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:00
daveyeff wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:26
got no money and we are STILL picking parcels up from peoples doors for nowt. :arrrghhh
How many more times is this nonsense going to be posted? They are paying the postage! I.e. your wages!
Yes but they could be paying a fee as well like they are meant to especially given RMs finance's your missing the point.
It is in Royal Mail’s benefit to deal on a one to one basis with the customer. They do not want them sending items via the post office when they have to give them a cut of the money. You are encouraging more people to use the company by making it convenient to send parcels. If you charge them for the privilege then you will likely lose that business entirely, and people will resort to sending parcels the old fashioned way.

This is all the while ignoring the point you are missing, in that it isn’t a ‘free’ service, which is what the poster I actually replied to, implied. And the free option runs out next week. It will be interesting to see if they extend it again, but anecdotally, collections have dried up on my round anyway. We rarely see them now.
Thats all fine and well if RM were making profit but look were we are talk about throwing money away.
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Post by guardianangel »

LouBarlow wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:00
daveyeff wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:26
got no money and we are STILL picking parcels up from peoples doors for nowt. :arrrghhh
How many more times is this nonsense going to be posted? They are paying the postage! I.e. your wages!
Exactly why we should be getting paid more,more work loaded on us with no extra time,basically doing the post office work,how long before 1000's of them will be pout of a job.
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Post by cows777 »

sindba wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:10
Thompson and his mob have destroyed Royal Mail with their greed, arrogance and stupidity.

We should strike and strike hard. It would be nothing more than a nail in the coffin.

If the only way the company survives is to turm us into deliveroo style modern slaves - then we're just as well working for deliveroo.

Strike. Burn the bastards. Enough is enough.
Yes well said mate lets do it :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana :nana