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Redundancies

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rambo1
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Redundancies

Post by rambo1 »

rambo1 wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 13:27
srilfc2013 wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 12:41
Garmentdistrict wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 12:23
I heard from midnight tonight
It's on now I have just applied for it
It's just a preference I think, I've done it and it says not binding.
My manger said seniority.
Ferrari5825
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Re: Redundancies

Post by Ferrari5825 »

HTPostman wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 13:24
My friend has just made a good point to me: he is intrigued how they’d select those for redundancy. Obviously first off you’d think they go for the older staff, but most will cost the most because they’ve been here the longer.

If the aim is to simply get rid of a chunk of people of people who are on current terms, surely it’s cheaper to make 5000 redundant who will get less than £10k each, than 5000 who will get £20k each but will likely retire soon anyway.

There’s also a bit about are you willing to relocate. Yes, offices might be told only say 5% can be selected, but if there’s flexibility with a neighbouring office wouldn’t be surprised to see a bigger percentage allowed from some offices.

Over to you, union.
Would they be able to bypass the seniority ranking when deciding voluntary redundancy? I was also thinking the same, that they would pick all of the cheaper staff to get rid of first, so it doesn't cost them as much.
Thebro
PARCELFORCE
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Re: Redundancies

Post by Thebro »

Ferrari5825 wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 13:04
Thebro wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 12:53
which app,
my royal mail,
people app,
or workplace?

i have been looking on people app but nothing,
pls help,
many thanks
On the People app under a preference exercise tile
thanks man,
after trying for ages i contacted the my people app help team by email.
they replied, and said because i work for Parcelforce, we are not included.
copy below.
DAMN!

just thought others should know.

Dear xxxx,

As we understand you work within the Parcelforce Business Unit you will not have access to this tile as this does not apply to Parcelforce employees.

Regards

People App Team

Royal Mail Group
HTPostman
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Re: Redundancies

Post by HTPostman »

Ferrari5825 wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 13:35
HTPostman wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 13:24
My friend has just made a good point to me: he is intrigued how they’d select those for redundancy. Obviously first off you’d think they go for the older staff, but most will cost the most because they’ve been here the longer.

If the aim is to simply get rid of a chunk of people of people who are on current terms, surely it’s cheaper to make 5000 redundant who will get less than £10k each, than 5000 who will get £20k each but will likely retire soon anyway.

There’s also a bit about are you willing to relocate. Yes, offices might be told only say 5% can be selected, but if there’s flexibility with a neighbouring office wouldn’t be surprised to see a bigger percentage allowed from some offices.

Over to you, union.
Would they be able to bypass the seniority ranking when deciding voluntary redundancy? I was also thinking the same, that they would pick all of the cheaper staff to get rid of first, so it doesn't cost them as much.
I’m not really sure what the laws are, what our agreements are (if they haven’t been torn up). The end game I think is simply replace staff with those on inferior contracts, and if they can do it cheaper they will.

Then again this is Royal Mail and when it comes to money there’s little logic.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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Ferrari5825
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Re: Redundancies

Post by Ferrari5825 »

HTPostman wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 13:38
Ferrari5825 wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 13:35
HTPostman wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 13:24
My friend has just made a good point to me: he is intrigued how they’d select those for redundancy. Obviously first off you’d think they go for the older staff, but most will cost the most because they’ve been here the longer.

If the aim is to simply get rid of a chunk of people of people who are on current terms, surely it’s cheaper to make 5000 redundant who will get less than £10k each, than 5000 who will get £20k each but will likely retire soon anyway.

There’s also a bit about are you willing to relocate. Yes, offices might be told only say 5% can be selected, but if there’s flexibility with a neighbouring office wouldn’t be surprised to see a bigger percentage allowed from some offices.

Over to you, union.
Would they be able to bypass the seniority ranking when deciding voluntary redundancy? I was also thinking the same, that they would pick all of the cheaper staff to get rid of first, so it doesn't cost them as much.
I’m not really sure what the laws are, what our agreements are (if they haven’t been torn up). The end game I think is simply replace staff with those on inferior contracts, and if they can do it cheaper they will.

Then again this is Royal Mail and when it comes to money there’s little logic.
That last sentence sums the company up in a nutshell :left:
Thebro
PARCELFORCE
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Re: Redundancies

Post by Thebro »

As we understand you work within the Parcelforce Business Unit you will not have access to this tile as this does not apply to Parcelforce employees.
Regards
People App Team
Royal Mail Group

Been 7.5 Tonne driver for 4 yrs with Parcelforce. Hard bloody graft. Job gets harder by tyhe month. Bloody Screwfix contrasct, and all other over 15 kgs shite others wont take.

Looks like us Parcelforce boys r gonna get nothing.
First no new jobs, only owner drivers.
Forced Sundays, Annualised hours!!
Proper punch in the guts, after all we did during covid.
Thanks CWU.

Was thinking of leaving, 6 grand would have been just what the Dr ordered, Ha Ha .
Probably leave and use agency, how crap is that? (They are offering £18.00 pr hour over Xmas in outer london royal mail depots)
Gonna wait and see what happens.
Postmanphat42069
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Re: Redundancies

Post by Postmanphat42069 »

Lawrencepa2014 wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 13:04
Postmanphat42069 wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 12:48
It's on and it works, but is based on how long you've been with the company. The £6000 is to get you to agree by the 27th of November.

Had it been a flat 9 months plus £6k I'd be gone, but they can get to F**k with 10 weeks wages 😂🤷‍♂️
So where did this 6k figure come from? I’ve been there 3.5 years and it’s saying I’m only entitled to 8 weeks pay. No mention of 6k
It says it on the page where you do your calculations, and then stipulates the conditions regarding getting the £6k.
Thebro
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Re: Redundancies

Post by Thebro »

7.5 Tonne Drivers

Various shifts available

Jubilee

£18.61 Days £19.82 Nights

Would you like to earn a bit extra in time for Christmas this year working the hours that fit in with your other commitments? Then join Royal Mail via Manpower as a 7.5 Tonne Driver and help us get the festive season delivered.

There are some great benefits on offer, including:-
• 28 days paid holiday (Pro Rata)
• Access to Manpower Rewards (Discounts on adventure days)
• Access to the MyPath upskilling programme

As a 7.5 Tonne Driver you’ll be helping to move packets and letters for one of our biggest distribution centres in the country.

You’ll be required to follow schedules, itineraries and detailed instructions, so you’ll need to bring excellent attention to detail. You’ll also need:
• A valid 7.5 Tonne driving licence plus digital tacho and CPC qualification cards
• A flexible, can-do attitude, including a willingness to work at other sites if required
• Ideally, experience of driving 7.5 Tonne vehicles in the UK (However, exceptions can be made on a case-by-case basis)

All drivers must undergo a driving assessment though, regardless of their experience.

So, whether you want to work, days, nights, weekends, full weeks, or the odd day, take the first step towards earning some extra cash for Christmas. Apply now.

A well–loved brand that people are proud of, Royal Mail has the assets, infrastructure and sheer scale that other organisations don’t. They are also a big part of the communities they operate in, delivering mail to over 30 million UK addresses each and every week. That’s billions of deliveries a year, thanks to the hard work of over 150,000 people.

Manpower and Royal Mail are committed to providing an environment that is inclusive for all.

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1560loopsayear
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Re: Redundancies

Post by 1560loopsayear »

12k if I was 10 years older and done 10 more years service might have been tempting, but in another 6 months I'd earn what the redundancy would give me. Would definately need to have another job lined up if I were to take it.
smartin1982
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Re: Redundancies

Post by smartin1982 »

1560loopsayear wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 14:07
12k if I was 10 years older and done 10 more years service might have been tempting, but in another 6 months I'd earn what the redundancy would give me. Would definately need to have another job lined up if I were to take it.
Personally I can’t stand the thought of doing this job for another 6 months. It’s horrendous now even before all of the changes being brought in.
I’ve done three years and applied.
twoloops
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Re: Redundancies

Post by twoloops »

I do not have the people app is there any other way, not bothered about waiting until the 27th I'll go today :wave
clashcityrocker
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Re: Redundancies

Post by clashcityrocker »

twoloops wrote:
17 Nov 2022, 15:00
I do not have the people app is there any other way,
Ask your manager.
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claretandblue
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Re: Redundancies

Post by claretandblue »

25k for me, (I won't be taking it).
Cedar_Room
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Re: Redundancies

Post by Cedar_Room »

Just over £24k for me. Looks like I’m sticking around for a bit longer :dance
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koolishy67
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Re: Redundancies

Post by koolishy67 »

Around 16000 for me considering now deadline 27nov