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Payrise

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Re: Payrise

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chickenwittle wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 15:16
So this is basically going the same way as every other pay deal it will be nearer Xmas by the time it’s resolved, I don’t know why it’s taken Terry so long to realise this , why are we not setting them a deadline to make us an offer ? It’s a disgrace considering the cost of living crisis we are all in .
He knows full well - this is his and CWU standard tactics to delay this as much as they can...like they have done before
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Re: Payrise

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mjd24 wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 16:18
POSTMAN wrote:
31 Mar 2022, 20:14
For the 2 records, LTB HERE...
LTB 153/22 – RMG Pay Award 2022

And Si is linking this for reference, in the Update on CWU Pay Discussions thread on Workplace...
RMCtv : Royal Mail pay better than Doris's at Asda on checkout 3
If i was advising Simon id really recommend just keeping his mouth shut for a while. All this gaslighting on Workplace doesnt help anybody and for me personally- really boils my blood.
The latest link is one to the BBC website suggesting the Russian invasion of Ukraine is causing economic uncertainty!

What other big organisations are putting payrise talks on hold due to the war?
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Re: Payrise

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Nick Landon

So we are completing our budget, now there are lots of moving parts this year so understanding what's going to be happening with inflation, what's going to be the impact of the Ukrainian conflict, and other things going around the world.

Really hard to judge that properly and changing all the time, so talking to the government, and other people to understand what we need to plan on.

While we're completing that, then we can't sign off next year's budget, and that sign off is the unlock to be able to talk to The CWU about the pay talks for this year.

So as Ricky said in his update, really want to pay, everyone, recognise all the brilliant and hard work that people have been doing over the last year. But that's the process we're going through, finalise the budget, understand what's going to be happening in the wider world, and then we get to that soon as we can.
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Re: Payrise

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TopperGas wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 20:55

The latest link is one to the BBC website suggesting the Russian invasion of Ukraine is causing economic uncertainty!

What other big organisations are putting payrise talks on hold due to the war?
I'm no economist BUT I fail to see how a war in Ukraine effects the ammount of crap mail we have to deliver, is Dominos closing down soon? Do they get their pepperami from Russia? :hmmmm

I can understand how if oil producing countries are at war then oil goes up, but the world markets seem so finely balanced that if ANTHING happens ANYWHERE they all crap themselves shout "Stock Market Crash" and start jumping out the windows! :shock:

If these markets are so finely balanced then perhaps it's time they "Stress Tested" them and made them a bit more resilient. I suspect they're designed the way they are just to squeeze a few extra pence profit out of the system, despite importing food from halfway around the world when it can be grown here. :cuppa
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Re: Payrise

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They need to give us a big pay rise as they cannot get the staff. If they paid more they would keep their staff and recruit new staff.

For ages now they cannot fill Postie roles across the country.
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Re: Payrise

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TopperGas wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 20:55
mjd24 wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 16:18
POSTMAN wrote:
31 Mar 2022, 20:14
For the 2 records, LTB HERE...
LTB 153/22 – RMG Pay Award 2022

And Si is linking this for reference, in the Update on CWU Pay Discussions thread on Workplace...
RMCtv : Royal Mail pay better than Doris's at Asda on checkout 3
If i was advising Simon id really recommend just keeping his mouth shut for a while. All this gaslighting on Workplace doesnt help anybody and for me personally- really boils my blood.
The latest link is one to the BBC website suggesting the Russian invasion of Ukraine is causing economic uncertainty!

What other big organisations are putting payrise talks on hold due to the war?
Firstly it’s really low to get out of an obligation using that as an excuse.

Secondly they were somehow able to predict in an unprecedented global pandemic that they could pay out fat dividends?
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Re: Payrise

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This guy takes us all for an idiot. I understand the need to budget planning but we are already in new financial year.

This planning should take place early January or even towards the end of last year. In my opinion this is exactly what happened, hence the big dividend payment beginning of January. Let's assume that no planning took place before and they start to get around it now. Very late and as all planning is based on projections, forecasts and by analysing data from previous years. This tells they were already planning and by now must be pretty close to finalising however our pay deal is at least not their priority. This should be at least quite high up on the list but something is telling me they have no intention of paying us anything meaningful as yet nobody from the business has came forward with anything. It is very obvious and should be acted upon immediately by CWU they will try to stall it as long as possible and then offer peanuts and backdated payment, many of us have already said it.

Simon's achievements so far as CEO is artificially pumped share price by lying to the public, investors and workforce only to offer huge one off dividend payments to major shareholders

Forced, badly designed revisions causing significant deterioration of quality of service as well as morale amongst frontline staff, resulting in above average sickness and increased costs.

He will in my opinion go down as a CEO during whose command quality of service reached the new lowest and is still going down.

As a result of all of the above as well as some investment banks and hedge funds able to read between the lines and shorting the stock, shares are about to struggle for unforeseeable future.

Well done
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Re: Payrise

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POSTMAN wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 21:14
Nick Landon

So we are completing our budget, now there are lots of moving parts this year so understanding what's going to be happening with inflation, what's going to be the impact of the Ukrainian conflict, and other things going around the world.

Really hard to judge that properly and changing all the time, so talking to the government, and other people to understand what we need to plan on.

While we're completing that, then we can't sign off next year's budget, and that sign off is the unlock to be able to talk to The CWU about the pay talks for this year.

So as Ricky said in his update, really want to pay, everyone, recognise all the brilliant and hard work that people have been doing over the last year. But that's the process we're going through, finalise the budget, understand what's going to be happening in the wider world, and then we get to that soon as we can.
How can the Government even if they are prepared to sit down and talk to individual companies, which seems unlikely, advise what's going to happen in the world in the coming year, they won't have a clue what Russia plans on doing next.

Regardless I doubt Simon ever planned on handing out a big payrise and that will now need to be scaled back because of Ukraine etc.
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Re: Payrise

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POSTMAN wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 21:14
Nick Landon

So we are completing our budget, now there are lots of moving parts this year so understanding what's going to be happening with inflation, what's going to be the impact of the Ukrainian conflict, and other things going around the world.

Really hard to judge that properly and changing all the time, so talking to the government, and other people to understand what we need to plan on.

While we're completing that, then we can't sign off next year's budget, and that sign off is the unlock to be able to talk to The CWU about the pay talks for this year.

So as Ricky said in his update, really want to pay, everyone, recognise all the brilliant and hard work that people have been doing over the last year. But that's the process we're going through, finalise the budget, understand what's going to be happening in the wider world, and then we get to that soon as we can.
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Re: Payrise

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POSTMAN wrote:
01 Apr 2022, 21:14
Nick Landon

So we are completing our budget, now there are lots of moving parts this year so understanding what's going to be happening with inflation, what's going to be the impact of the Ukrainian conflict, and other things going around the world.

Good News Boys (and Girls)! Ukraine Forces have seized back territory,, and Russian Forces are withdrawing. So we're obviously going to be OK for a payrise! :whistle

That's right isn't it Nick? That's what you're worried about? :cuppa
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Re: Payrise

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And how much the awful botched revisions have and still is costing us , complete waste of money and time
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Re: Payrise

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Most reputable businesses would have set their budgets well in advance of the start of the financial year - by "most" I mean "all"

It is similar to most businesses being able to plan in advance for Christmas and not having it sneak up on them every year like RM manage to do.

Most businesses are run by capable and competent people who personally know what goes on in every area of their business. Some businesses are run by incompetent, clueless fuckwits.
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Re: Payrise

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National Living Wage has just gone up 6.6%, so our wages should be due to go up at least that much otherwise we are heading for minimum wage slavery.

What % increase is everyone here expecting?
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Re: Payrise

Post by 2yearpostie »

norris9 wrote:
03 Apr 2022, 12:40
National Living Wage has just gone up 6.6%, so our wages should be due to go up at least that much otherwise we are heading for minimum wage slavery.

What % increase is everyone here expecting?
Id settle for half inflation so 3.5%
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Re: Payrise

Post by aiden01 »

2yearpostie wrote:
03 Apr 2022, 12:51
norris9 wrote:
03 Apr 2022, 12:40
National Living Wage has just gone up 6.6%, so our wages should be due to go up at least that much otherwise we are heading for minimum wage slavery.

What % increase is everyone here expecting?
Id settle for half inflation so 3.5%
Why would you settle for half inflation??