Absolutely No idea what that is, is it the same as when all my Businesses are at the end of my Mech? Plus a single address which has the correct Post Code so God Knows why it turns up at the end...Every Day!SpacePhoenix wrote:You can always tell when a DO isn't updating their A+ when you get bulk postings like electoral register postings, you get a load go straight to stacker 20 on the CSS
Dorset Plodder wrote:Absolutely No idea what that is, is it the same as when all my Businesses are at the end of my Mech? Plus a single address which has the correct Post Code so God Knows why it turns up at the end...Every Day!SpacePhoenix wrote:You can always tell when a DO isn't updating their A+ when you get bulk postings like electoral register postings, you get a load go straight to stacker 20 on the CSS
Decky Boy wrote:Machines are taking over guys.... there's a £1,000,000 sequencing machine (in Exeter I believe) that does the work of 12 night shift staff on it's own. Letters/Flats and Door to Door Items are sorted/sequenced/bundled together before being issued to Delivery Offices
Soon there will only be parcel prep in Delivery Hubs in the morning... you'll not need a prep frame as the mail will have been bundled up for you by the new "super machines". It's not hard to see where thousands of hours can be saved... and jobs will go. Probably thousandsor
if you are a shareholder.
Anyone know any more about these machines ?
I'm not even going to think about this stuff until it arrives. It's just mind boggling and was obviously suggested by people with absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING of how mail is delivered. They're just looking at ways of trying to save money.postslippete wrote:
So imagine if all the letters and door to doors are all sorted and bundled together and then you get a full packet shroud for your walk to sort out. Do you really mean to tell me that parcel prep will entail unbundling the bundles that come in and then marking off where the parcels that need to be delivered within it? How does that make anything other than perfect sense? It would probably take you longer than it would than if it was in a frame. And what if there is someone new doing the duty? Er, which bundle is 'Cockburn street' in??
agreed, most days my route is based on what specials I have, I have specials near the end of the delivery, I'll start there...Dorset Plodder wrote:I'm not even going to think about this stuff until it arrives. It's just mind boggling and was obviously suggested by people with absolutely NO UNDERSTANDING of how mail is delivered. They're just looking at ways of trying to save money.
Even as I'm throwing off I'm thinking, "Big Parcel for No 11... so I'll park outside and walk the loop from there......... Big Parcel for the end of the road....so I'll do that loop backwards etc etc". I find it prepares me for the days Delivery (which is NOT always delivered the same way). God Knows what it would be like if it just "Arrived" ready to go....apart from the little jobs you've mentioned.
At the moment I'm considering marking bundles to show there's a small parcel, or envelope,with a bloody 2d barcode hidden amongst it. As I don't carry the PDA ALL the time.....and sometimes get caught out half way around the loop when I find it. I expect the machine will do that for us though?
Yes I do this as wellDorset Plodder wrote: Even as I'm throwing off I'm thinking, "Big Parcel for No 11... so I'll park outside and walk the loop from there......... Big Parcel for the end of the road....so I'll do that loop backwards etc etc". I find it prepares me for the days Delivery (which is NOT always delivered the same way).
Imagine 6 or 6.5 hour deliveries split in two with a 30 minute meal relief in the middle. Mostly all mail/flats and Door to Door items plus a few small packets (one or two for each loop)... 10 to 16 miles a day with plenty of climbing but virtually no attendance calls other than "Signed For" letters ?postslippete wrote:So imagine if all the letters and door to doors are all sorted and bundled together and then you get a full packet shroud for your walk to sort out. Do you really mean to tell me that parcel prep will entail unbundling the bundles that come in and then marking off where the parcels that need to be delivered within it? How does that make anything other than perfect sense? It would probably take you longer than it would than if it was in a frame. And what if there is someone new doing the duty? Er, which bundle is 'Cockburn street' in??
I wouldn't be surprised to see letter delivery made every other day. There's no guarantee that it won't eventually end up like Canada with everyone collecting their own mail from the local officesDecky Boy wrote:Imagine 6 or 6.5 hour deliveries split in two with a 30 minute meal relief in the middle. Mostly all mail/flats and Door to Door items plus a few small packets (one or two for each loop)... 10 to 16 miles a day with plenty of climbing but virtually no attendance calls other than "Signed For" letters ?postslippete wrote:So imagine if all the letters and door to doors are all sorted and bundled together and then you get a full packet shroud for your walk to sort out. Do you really mean to tell me that parcel prep will entail unbundling the bundles that come in and then marking off where the parcels that need to be delivered within it? How does that make anything other than perfect sense? It would probably take you longer than it would than if it was in a frame. And what if there is someone new doing the duty? Er, which bundle is 'Cockburn street' in??
So who will deliver all the Parcels I hear you ask ? With automation there'll be redundancies in mail centres. New Packet Duties will be created and staffed by our redundant brothers and sisters from processing. We won't need many mind you... as they too will be out on the street for 6 - 6.5 hours
Let's hope the individual who suggested this to me was just retelling a bad dream.... I certainly hope so
It may surprise some Posties to learn that some of us are already on 6 1/4 hour Deliveries (including Meal relief)Decky Boy wrote:
Imagine 6 or 6.5 hour deliveries split in two with a 30 minute meal relief in the middle.
Obviously some Delivery Offices have been Luckier/More Sensible with their Revision, and perhaps their Deliveries are not as long? Yet other Members of this Forum worry when they're asked to do more indoor prep. You can't have your cake and eat it. If you've got shorter Outdoor Deliveries (which take up less of your day) then you're going to keep getting more Indoor Prep to fill those hours. It's not Rocket Science. 
YEPSouth_London_Postie wrote:HAhaha the full timers at it again trying to get the better end of a made up deal and shaft part timers with theoretical weekend work ! These same full timers who are gonna need us PT staff to help fight their pensions. Nice one mate :)citypostie wrote:
Change that to f/t mon-thur and P/t fri-sun and royal mail might get their wayaposter wrote:Got to be there for the late finishers, also what about locker personnel?rambo1 wrote:So if we went to 30hrs across the board, then would the linos and DOM's? As there'd be no need for them to be there any longer.
Of course they could do away with paid breaks, increase round length to 6 hours, and put in a 4 day week, p/t working less hours mon/tues and f/t working wd/th/fr/sat
Every 1 hour reduction in the working week is approximately a 2.5% pay rise.ernieshoe wrote:
YEP
Another part time stitch up possibly on the way.
Full timers get a 35 hour week on 39 hours pay.
30 hour Part timers get 30 hours pay for 30 hours work on generally shittier rounds !
Me tooBeamishStout wrote:Yes I do this as wellDorset Plodder wrote: Even as I'm throwing off I'm thinking, "Big Parcel for No 11... so I'll park outside and walk the loop from there......... Big Parcel for the end of the road....so I'll do that loop backwards etc etc". I find it prepares me for the days Delivery (which is NOT always delivered the same way).
Me too.walkthewalk wrote:Me tooBeamishStout wrote:Yes I do this as wellDorset Plodder wrote: Even as I'm throwing off I'm thinking, "Big Parcel for No 11... so I'll park outside and walk the loop from there......... Big Parcel for the end of the road....so I'll do that loop backwards etc etc". I find it prepares me for the days Delivery (which is NOT always delivered the same way).
It'd be daft not to.