Still wouldn't work, most MCs are short on space as it is. Don't forget that with the various MC closures and mergers over the last few years, many MCs cover a lot more DOs. Say a MC covers 20 DOs, for inward that would mean 20 more sleeves needed for packets (there's often a shortage of sleeves as it is), 20 more selections on flat and letter frames and it would mean more manual letters as recorded mech letters would have to be sorted to manual selections as you can't have walk sequencing for just recorded letters and most machines don't have anywhere near enough stackers to have separate batches for recorded lettersvillan wrote:That might be the case at the moment but RM could change its procedure for handling Signed For mail by keeping it separate right from when a customer pays for it in a Post Office or wherever. That's what currently happens with Specials so there's no reason why it can't also be done with Signed For. The Signed For mail would never even get mixed up with the normal mail and so no effort would be required to separate it out. This change simply requires the will to implement it.SpacePhoenix wrote:That's because they arrive at the MCs separate. MCs don't have the time, space or staff to be able to separate the recordeds from the normalsvillan wrote:If RM can separate out the Specials and Tracked they can do the same for Signed For.SpacePhoenix wrote:You'd still have to separate the recordeds from the non recordeds, so it's doubtfull that you'd save very much timevillan wrote:I prefer a later start too. Maybe that's because I'm more of a night owl so am clearly in the wrong job.Stammerking wrote:Prefer the 7.15 start means I get up with the rest of my family and I,m not to tired more social hours just Saturdays are the problem!
Let's be honest - most of what we deliver isn't wanted (I constantly get "more rubbish for me then postie?" and "that's going straight in the bin" from householders) so I can't see anyone worrying about not getting it before they go out to work. Back when letters were the main means of communication it made good business sense to deliver stuff at breakfast time, but not any more.
Perhaps we could introduce dedicated packet/signature duties running from, say, 7am to 8.30am? Non-packet/non-signature stuff would then go out as normal from whatever time it does now and we'd get around a lot quicker because 99.9% of the stuff could be posted through the letterboxes, no fuss, no messing around and no deliver to neighbour. And no time-wasting detours to meet 1pm special delivery deadlines either.
Dare I say it, but if normal duties didn't have any packets to deliver or signatures to obtain then they could be bigger but take no more time than at present.
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SpacePhoenix
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Heard that actually happened today. A family member who stays in the area (Inverclyde) called me tonight and told me.Chelseablue wrote:Early starts summer,......should be mandatory . ,somebody will drop down dead in this searing heat,,delivering at the hottest time of day ,health and safety my a RSe . Also why don't Royal Mail introduce plain red cotton loose t shirts for the summer. The polos kill you in this heat . Cool bag for the drinks in van ,asking a lot I know . Lol
Anyone from Inverclyde office confirm this? Hopefully a false rumour
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Probably and hopefully a rumour, cemented by the fact it's almost impossible to get warm in Scotland. Really hope it didn't happen, as we had one last year and this shouldn't be happening ANY year.scotspostie777 wrote:Heard that actually happened today. A family member who stays in the area (Inverclyde) called me tonight and told me.Chelseablue wrote:Early starts summer,......should be mandatory . ,somebody will drop down dead in this searing heat,,delivering at the hottest time of day ,health and safety my a RSe . Also why don't Royal Mail introduce plain red cotton loose t shirts for the summer. The polos kill you in this heat . Cool bag for the drinks in van ,asking a lot I know . Lol
Anyone from Inverclyde office confirm this? Hopefully a false rumour
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Treacle12
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Wear a Hi-Viz in this heat ...no chance .I look where I am going especially crossing roads :)
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Jpro747
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Still, it could be a lot worse. I wonder how our postie colleagues from hot countries like Spain etc feel?
At least we get to wear shorts and t shirt. The last time I went on holiday, I had to feel for the poor sods that were unloading suitcases off the plane in the heat of the day in Turkey. It was 40c and they were wearing overalls and a hi vis jacket!
At least we get to wear shorts and t shirt. The last time I went on holiday, I had to feel for the poor sods that were unloading suitcases off the plane in the heat of the day in Turkey. It was 40c and they were wearing overalls and a hi vis jacket!
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krussel
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Jpro747 wrote:Still, it could be a lot worse. I wonder how our postie colleagues from hot countries like Spain etc feel?
At least we get to wear shorts and t shirt. The last time I went on holiday, I had to feel for the poor sods that were unloading suitcases off the plane in the heat of the day in Turkey. It was 40c and they were wearing overalls and a hi vis jacket!
When I ve been in hot countries you tend to find that things slow down during the hottest time of the day. Workers often take a mid afternoon break but then work later into the eve.
If you live in Turkey you would become used to the heat.
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You do.
I came back home after 6 months in Belize and checked the weather forecast as we landed. It said heat wave so I left my coat in my bags and just wore a shirt and jeans. Got outside and was shivering even though its was 22C. Didn't half get some funny looks on the train wearing a jumper and drinking hot tea.

I came back home after 6 months in Belize and checked the weather forecast as we landed. It said heat wave so I left my coat in my bags and just wore a shirt and jeans. Got outside and was shivering even though its was 22C. Didn't half get some funny looks on the train wearing a jumper and drinking hot tea.
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Least you wouldn't have had to check yer shoes for beasties
Seriously though were just not that used to the heat
So we aren't acclimatised to it
Hi Vis off
Hat on
Water in
And remove yourself from outdoor work if feeling confused/dizzy/sick etc
And prepare for the inquisition......sorry......safety investigation

Seriously though were just not that used to the heat
So we aren't acclimatised to it
Hi Vis off
Hat on
Water in
And remove yourself from outdoor work if feeling confused/dizzy/sick etc
And prepare for the inquisition......sorry......safety investigation
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speedy999
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Hi, just had a week off, got a text today saying our start time is now 8.30 mon / tue as mail wont be arriving till 8.45. Were not a remote office, just north of york,, since i started 31/2 yrs ago weve slowly moved from 6.30 starts oto this,,, what next
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zooom
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No, no and no again! I like to have a life thank you. I don't want to go back to getting up at 4:30am and spending my entire life feeling tired. 
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dave72
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I hated the 5am starts. In bed for 9:30pm and up at 4am
I much preferred the 7:15 start. We start at 8am in my office, out in the mid-afternoon sun is killing us
I much preferred the 7:15 start. We start at 8am in my office, out in the mid-afternoon sun is killing us