Royal Mail Bullying 4 hour delivery timed on quickest postie

[stokes11eg]

just introduced 4 hour walks, which manager being told cannot be done in the time. he has told one colleague he will start timing them and another he will be using fastest worker as his yardstick

It's always amazed me that these' fastest' workers, who can do everyone's walk so much more quickly, are never actually tested on the walks--Although some folks are naturally slightly faster, there is no way these flyers can be so good;;they should be made to prove how they manage to do the walks so quickly!

[dvbuk55]

just introduced 4 hour walks, which manager being told cannot be done in the time. he has told one colleague he will start timing them and another he will be using fastest worker as his yardstick

It's always amazed me that these' fastest' workers, who can do everyone's walk so much more quickly, are never actually tested on the walks--Although some folks are naturally slightly faster, there is no way these flyers can be so good;;they should be made to prove how they manage to do the walks so quickly!

Conveniently placed skips ...........................no, no just joking

[fishtank]

just introduced 4 hour walks, which manager being told cannot be done in the time. he has told one colleague he will start timing them and another he will be using fastest worker as his yardstick

It's always amazed me that these' fastest' workers, who can do everyone's walk so much more quickly, are never actually tested on the walks--Although some folks are naturally slightly faster, there is no way these flyers can be so good;;they should be made to prove how they manage to do the walks so quickly!

Conveniently placed skips ...........................no, no just joking

It might not go as far as that dv but almost all of the flyers at my place have been caught for one thing or another at some point.
Running,jumping fences,deliberate missorting,hiding small packets with the big ones,doorstepping,not obtaining a signature...there are many ways to shave time off a delivery.
And then it's "I've only ever done it once....honest".
Dumb as a box of rocks the lot of them.

[stokes11eg]

just introduced 4 hour walks, which manager being told cannot be done in the time. he has told one colleague he will start timing them and another he will be using fastest worker as his yardstick

It's always amazed me that these' fastest' workers, who can do everyone's walk so much more quickly, are never actually tested on the walks--Although some folks are naturally slightly faster, there is no way these flyers can be so good;;they should be made to prove how they manage to do the walks so quickly!

Conveniently placed skips ...........................no, no just joking

It might not go as far as that dv but almost all of the flyers at my place have been caught for one thing or another at some point.
Running,jumping fences,deliberate missorting,hiding small packets with the big ones,doorstepping,not obtaining a signature...there are many ways to shave time off a delivery.
And then it's "I've only ever done it once....honest".
Dumb as a box of rocks the lot of them.

Exactly---

[dvbuk55]

just introduced 4 hour walks, which manager being told cannot be done in the time. he has told one colleague he will start timing them and another he will be using fastest worker as his yardstick

It's always amazed me that these' fastest' workers, who can do everyone's walk so much more quickly, are never actually tested on the walks--Although some folks are naturally slightly faster, there is no way these flyers can be so good;;they should be made to prove how they manage to do the walks so quickly!

Conveniently placed skips ...........................no, no just joking

It might not go as far as that dv but almost all of the flyers at my place have been caught for one thing or another at some point.
Running,jumping fences,deliberate missorting,hiding small packets with the big ones,doorstepping,not obtaining a signature...there are many ways to shave time off a delivery.
And then it's "I've only ever done it once....honest".
Dumb as a box of rocks the lot of them.

Exactly---

I know the sort ft, and have followed them on the old style delivery teams. Crashing through hedges, one guy would deliver the whole cul de sac to the first house , running - when the time was there to take OK I could see some point to it - but now that time has gone and yet they still do it

[underpants]

just introduced 4 hour walks, which manager being told cannot be done in the time. he has told one colleague he will start timing them and another he will be using fastest worker as his yardstick

o well he would make his job harder if he done that.

[stokes11eg]

just introduced 4 hour walks, which manager being told cannot be done in the time. he has told one colleague he will start timing them and another he will be using fastest worker as his yardstick

It's always amazed me that these' fastest' workers, who can do everyone's walk so much more quickly, are never actually tested on the walks--Although some folks are naturally slightly faster, there is no way these flyers can be so good;;they should be made to prove how they manage to do the walks so quickly!

Conveniently placed skips ...........................no, no just joking

It might not go as far as that dv but almost all of the flyers at my place have been caught for one thing or another at some point.
Running,jumping fences,deliberate missorting,hiding small packets with the big ones,doorstepping,not obtaining a signature...there are many ways to shave time off a delivery.
And then it's "I've only ever done it once....honest".
Dumb as a box of rocks the lot of them.

Exactly---

I know the sort ft, and have followed them on the old style delivery teams. Crashing through hedges, one guy would deliver the whole cul de sac to the first house , running - when the time was there to take OK I could see some point to it - but now that time has gone and yet they still do it

Problem is, these flyers, and a graet many others still get to 'keep, this saved time!

[OnAFlyer]

just introduced 4 hour walks, which manager being told cannot be done in the time. he has told one colleague he will start timing them and another he will be using fastest worker as his yardstick

It's always amazed me that these' fastest' workers, who can do everyone's walk so much more quickly, are never actually tested on the walks--Although some folks are naturally slightly faster, there is no way these flyers can be so good;;they should be made to prove how they manage to do the walks so quickly!

I would class myself as a quick postie - and I don't take any of the 'shortcuts' in this thread - I do the job properly but I naturally walk quickly.

A few years ago I tested the new walks (I volunteered) and did them at a 'normal' walking pace to an average of 3.30. At my own pace though I can do them in under 3hrs and some in a fair bit less - the posties that work at an average pace get them done within time, the slow ones sometimes go over but that's not because the walks are too long.

Don't make out that everyone who doesn't take 5hrs on a walk is doing allsorts wrong becaue it's not true. Some of the slower guys in our office never bring a packet back because they leave everyone they can't get rid of in blue bins.

Everyone works at their own pace.

[stokes11eg]

just introduced 4 hour walks, which manager being told cannot be done in the time. he has told one colleague he will start timing them and another he will be using fastest worker as his yardstick

It's always amazed me that these' fastest' workers, who can do everyone's walk so much more quickly, are never actually tested on the walks--Although some folks are naturally slightly faster, there is no way these flyers can be so good;;they should be made to prove how they manage to do the walks so quickly!

I would class myself as a quick postie - and I don't take any of the 'shortcuts' in this thread - I do the job properly but I naturally walk quickly.

A few years ago I tested the new walks (I volunteered) and did them at a 'normal' walking pace to an average of 3.30. At my own pace though I can do them in under 3hrs and some in a fair bit less - the posties that work at an average pace get them done within time, the slow ones sometimes go over but that's not because the walks are too long.

Don't make out that everyone who doesn't take 5hrs on a walk is doing allsorts wrong becaue it's not true. Some of the slower guys in our office never bring a packet back because they leave everyone they can't get rid of in blue bins.

Everyone works at their own pace.

Yes, there are a few 'genuinely quick folks in our office, who can do the jobs quickly and properly, but the real ;flyers= claim they can knock up to to a couple of hours from all the walks they cover. This is an insult to most of us who do the walks speedily but properly-----as I said before, these ones should be tested on all those walks.

[belle smith]

I would class myself as a quick postie - and I don't take any of the 'shortcuts' in this thread - I do the job properly but I naturally walk quickly.

Do you stop at doors to check mail for next house, or do you do that while walking? i'll concead i do the latter. Do you close customers gates?

A few years ago I tested the new walks (I volunteered) and did them at a 'normal' walking pace to an average of 3.30. At my own pace though I can do them in under 3hrs and some in a fair bit less - the posties that work at an average pace get them done within time, the slow ones sometimes go over but that's not because the walks are too long.

Have they not been done by pegasus yet?
are you still eh... on a flyer, i mean do you still go home early?

[OnAFlyer]

I would class myself as a quick postie - and I don't take any of the 'shortcuts' in this thread - I do the job properly but I naturally walk quickly.

Do you stop at doors to check mail for next house, or do you do that while walking? i'll concead i do the latter. Do you close customers gates?

A few years ago I tested the new walks (I volunteered) and did them at a 'normal' walking pace to an average of 3.30. At my own pace though I can do them in under 3hrs and some in a fair bit less - the posties that work at an average pace get them done within time, the slow ones sometimes go over but that's not because the walks are too long.

Have they not been done by pegasus yet?
are you still eh... on a flyer, i mean do you still go home early?

I leave every gate as I find it, if it's a busy day I do check whilst walking though as most people would admit to.

Pegasus was run in our office a while ago and took 0 hours out, the walks were an average of 3.30 according to that.The new 4.15 walks are 40-50 mins longer than at present and are reasonable IMO, i'm still not sure how it's all going to fit into a 7.48hr day though when the revision goes through. It's not the walks that wil be the problem, it's the amount of indoor hours WSM's are supposed to save (they dont!)


And for going home early yes, we don't return to office and I admit i've worked to my time probably once in the last year, though with WSM's now in the office i'm must closer to it most days than it used to be.

[BELIAL]

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[TrueBlueTerrier]

Stakhanovite

off to the Gulag with you Belial

[belle smith]

I leave every gate as I find it, if it's a busy day I do check whilst walking though as most people would admit to. Yep me too. it isn't doing the job properly though.

Pegasus was run in our office a while ago and took 0 hours out, the walks were an average of 3.30 according to that.The new 4.15 walks are 40-50 mins longer than at present and are reasonable IMO, i'm still not sure how it's all going to fit into a 7.48hr day though when the revision goes through. It's not the walks that wil be the problem, it's the amount of indoor hours WSM's are supposed to save (they dont!)


And for going home early yes, we don't return to office and I admit i've worked to my time probably once in the last year, though with WSM's now in the office i'm must closer to it most days than it used to be.

Thanks for the reponce very candid.