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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Tamsky wrote:RM senior operational managers now in a panic that the nationally agreed Indoor Workload Tool will not slash n burn hours from offices so they want to use the unagreed capacity plan, (in fact they wanted CWU agreement to a Scottish version of IWT) They have been told not on by Union. Revisions will onlt take place under agreed process and tools.

Reps have been advised to use disagreement procedure where RM fail to abide by national agreement. In some units RM are failing packets/parcels/USO to enable enforced lapsing, in others DOM doing OPG work to allow lapsing. Feelings among members running high in some areas - some talk of Rule 13 ballots if all else fails. Need to look out my Peter the Picket face mask even if tres passe'.

East end barrow boy drafted in during senior managers enforced gardening leave is heading south for the winter. Heard his replacement is from North of Ireland who knows nothing of collections/delivery. Should be fun.

Drivers tagged to delivery mightily pissed off the still no Delivery supplement even though National Agreement clear on this point.

Been off RMC for a while - got fed up with anti union rants. Good to be back :wave
Doms have been doing opgs work for quite some time in some offices and this is not just recently but has been an on going problem for the past year or so.

Packets are failing in some offices as well because the packet driver thats meant to be doing packets is on delivery. Too much is being squeezed in every office, and as a result the bubble has burst.

As for the IWT it still has many grey areas to be filled in. Toilet breaks, walking to and from the ips frame, collecting your packets bag, collecting your pouch bags from your locker, collecting specials from the callers office, kill offs. Some off the things i have mentioned have probably not been shown in the IWT but of course the dom will always say it has been.
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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I was against the national agreement due to loss of earnings over D2D but do think that there are good bits in it for the workforce. Since the Agreement has been endorsed by the membership I have tried to make RM abide by the principles set out.
Six step revision process which involves rep from phase 1 just is not happening. Duties are being presented as a fait accompli with no CWU discussion.

Network 2010 changes being implemented with no agreement with resultatnt loss of allowance and prof driving grades. Talk of Rule 13 ballots spreading.

No weekly resource meetings to jointly agree lapsing and staffing. Lapsing being ratched up by failing packets/parcels, failing collections, DOM's doing OPG work/

Could it be that RM know nationally agreed tools will not throw up any savings and cannot face the possibility of putting hours and duties back into units stripped bare under the unagreed capacity plan.

Is this the same elsewhere?
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Tamsky wrote:I was against the national agreement due to loss of earnings over D2D but do think that there are good bits in it for the workforce. Since the Agreement has been endorsed by the membership I have tried to make RM abide by the principles set out.
Six step revision process which involves rep from phase 1 just is not happening. Duties are being presented as a fait accompli with no CWU discussion.

Network 2010 changes being implemented with no agreement with resultatnt loss of allowance and prof driving grades. Talk of Rule 13 ballots spreading.

No weekly resource meetings to jointly agree lapsing and staffing. Lapsing being ratched up by failing packets/parcels, failing collections, DOM's doing OPG work/

Could it be that RM know nationally agreed tools will not throw up any savings and cannot face the possibility of putting hours and duties back into units stripped bare under the unagreed capacity plan.

Is this the same elsewhere?
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Tamsky wrote:
No weekly resource meetings to jointly agree lapsing and staffing. Lapsing being ratched up by failing packets/parcels, failing collections, DOM's doing OPG work/
Aren't ACAS supposed to be overseeing the implementation of 2010 and Beyond?
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clashcityrocker wrote:
Tamsky wrote:
No weekly resource meetings to jointly agree lapsing and staffing. Lapsing being ratched up by failing packets/parcels, failing collections, DOM's doing OPG work/
Aren't ACAS supposed to be overseeing the implementation of 2010 and Beyond?
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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you right clash ACAS are still part of the process and know what was agreed nationally - trouble is there is a detachment at top levels from local units. At the end of the day our only recourse is to rule 13 ballots for industrial action - why should we ask members to take further action when we already have a national agreement over these issue?
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Have to say Tam and i know you're having it hard up there,but keep us informed,this is good s**t if you know what i mean.
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macphee1 wrote:
Some news from Scotland with regard to agreed tools.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Had a conversation with a senior manager this week along the lines of "Why would RM pay a high EP unit £200 simply to maintain performance?" Em because its in the national agreement. And "the £200 will only be paid is it is self financed". Wheres this in the agreement?

He then went on to extoll the virtues of "working together" :arrrghhh

I made it plain 1' No rep release no revision
2 no lump sum payment no revision
3 Nationally Agreed tools only :cool
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Well said brother Tamsky and keep sticking it to them namely abide by the National Agreement.
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Tamsky wrote:
He then went on to extoll the virtues of "working together"
Do you think he fancied you?
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Since we know each other clash you know i do have that je ne sais quoi. :oops: But he's not my type :no no
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Re: Royal Mail Scotland

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Tamsky wrote:Since we know each other clash you know i do have that je ne sais quoi. :oops: But he's not my type :no no
Ooh la la Tamsky.
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