is there a start and finish date nationally for this shite ? , as our dim has put the start date as the 4th Sept but no finish date , or has ward and co just f****d off .
11th December should be the last week,that is the so called 14th week,my 24 minutes early will be taken up sat in school traffic cant wait getting a shorter working week next year for sitting in a van this year,these tools are not fit to run a modern delivery company.
Is it designed to get us out earlier though? Surely the extra 24 minutes will be taken up on IPS and take away from overtime hours in the morning? I can’t see us leaving the office any earlier.
i thought the reason for the later starts was the truck arrivals at delivery offices , but yet they can get the trucks to offices earlyier than planned now , will we all get new contracts to sign due to these changes ?
is there a start and finish date nationally for this shite ? , as our dim has put the start date as the 4th Sept but no finish date , or has ward and co just f****d off .
11th December should be the last week,that is the so called 14th week,my 24 minutes early will be taken up sat in school traffic cant wait getting a shorter working week next year for sitting in a van this year,these tools are not fit to run a modern delivery company.
Is it designed to get us out earlier though? Surely the extra 24 minutes will be taken up on IPS and take away from overtime hours in the morning? I can’t see us leaving the office any earlier.
i thought the reason for the later starts was the truck arrivals at delivery offices , but yet they can get the trucks to offices earlyier than planned now , will we all get new contracts to sign due to these changes ?
I’m with you. I’ve never understood RM’s obsession with later starts. My assumption is, they will see out this first year, as per the agreement, and then after we will have the later finishes from March, and the seasonal variation will be at the end of the duty.
is there a start and finish date nationally for this shite ? , as our dim has put the start date as the 4th Sept but no finish date , or has ward and co just f****d off .
11th December should be the last week,that is the so called 14th week,my 24 minutes early will be taken up sat in school traffic cant wait getting a shorter working week next year for sitting in a van this year,these tools are not fit to run a modern delivery company.
Is it designed to get us out earlier though? Surely the extra 24 minutes will be taken up on IPS and take away from overtime hours in the morning? I can’t see us leaving the office any earlier.
i thought the reason for the later starts was the truck arrivals at delivery offices , but yet they can get the trucks to offices earlyier than planned now , will we all get new contracts to sign due to these changes ?
I’m with you. I’ve never understood RM’s obsession with later starts. My assumption is, they will see out this first year, as per the agreement, and then after we will have the later finishes from March, and the seasonal variation will be at the end of the duty.
+1 from me too, of course they want it tagged on the end, one of the issues is their massive loss that is providing the lat service.
is there a start and finish date nationally for this shite ? , as our dim has put the start date as the 4th Sept but no finish date , or has ward and co just f****d off .
11th December should be the last week,that is the so called 14th week,my 24 minutes early will be taken up sat in school traffic cant wait getting a shorter working week next year for sitting in a van this year,these tools are not fit to run a modern delivery company.
Is it designed to get us out earlier though? Surely the extra 24 minutes will be taken up on IPS and take away from overtime hours in the morning? I can’t see us leaving the office any earlier.
i thought the reason for the later starts was the truck arrivals at delivery offices , but yet they can get the trucks to offices earlyier than planned now , will we all get new contracts to sign due to these changes ?
I’m with you. I’ve never understood RM’s obsession with later starts. My assumption is, they will see out this first year, as per the agreement, and then after we will have the later finishes from March, and the seasonal variation will be at the end of the duty.
thats a deffo and the crumbling workers union will just go along with it , but one thing is for sure that when we go to a 35hr week i will be working 35 hrs and thats it , so there will be s**t loads going back everyday that is a fact .
thats a deffo and the crumbling workers union will just go along with it , but one thing is for sure that when we go to a 35hr week i will be working 35 hrs and thats it , so there will be s**t loads going back everyday that is a fact .
Don't forget next summers lapsing - its still there in the agreement
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
thats a deffo and the crumbling workers union will just go along with it , but one thing is for sure that when we go to a 35hr week i will be working 35 hrs and thats it , so there will be s**t loads going back everyday that is a fact .
Don't forget next summers lapsing - its still there in the agreement
good for them , if this summer is anything to go by they havent got a chance to give any more work on to what we cant do now
thats a deffo and the crumbling workers union will just go along with it , but one thing is for sure that when we go to a 35hr week i will be working 35 hrs and thats it , so there will be s**t loads going back everyday that is a fact .
Don't forget next summers lapsing - its still there in the agreement
thats a deffo and the crumbling workers union will just go along with it , but one thing is for sure that when we go to a 35hr week i will be working 35 hrs and thats it , so there will be s**t loads going back everyday that is a fact .
Don't forget next summers lapsing - its still there in the agreement
So is working your hours.
Don't forget about the possibility of 30 mins flex as well.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
thats a deffo and the crumbling workers union will just go along with it , but one thing is for sure that when we go to a 35hr week i will be working 35 hrs and thats it , so there will be s**t loads going back everyday that is a fact .
Don't forget next summers lapsing - its still there in the agreement
So is working your hours.
Don't forget about the possibility of 30 mins flex as well.
Possibility means it is optional, as it has always been. Work your time and go home.
Possibility means it is optional, as it has always been. Work your time and go home.
There are that many grey areas in this agreement I hope you're right. Wonder why they have brought it up again? As if seasonal variations and later finishes wasn't bad enough
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Possibility means it is optional, as it has always been. Work your time and go home.
There are that many grey areas in this agreement I hope you're right. Wonder why they have brought it up again? As if seasonal variations and later finishes wasn't bad enough
I think honestly that we have reached a tipping point. They have made the job so unattractive to new starters, and are causing veterans to leave in their droves, that they might, just might have cottoned on to the fact that they need to make some concessions for existing staff. I know locally my managers are ignoring a lot of the orders coming to them from above, as they realise that there is no point in them being complicit in making their own job impossible to do. We are so short staffed now it is ridiculous. I’d be amazed if they bring in forced flex on top of the seasonal hours and start time changes.
Possibility means it is optional, as it has always been. Work your time and go home.
There are that many grey areas in this agreement I hope you're right. Wonder why they have brought it up again? As if seasonal variations and later finishes wasn't bad enough
I think honestly that we have reached a tipping point. They have made the job so unattractive to new starters, and are causing veterans to leave in their droves, that they might, just might have cottoned on to the fact that they need to make some concessions for existing staff. I know locally my managers are ignoring a lot of the orders coming to them from above, as they realise that there is no point in them being complicit in making their own job impossible to do. We are so short staffed now it is ridiculous. I’d be amazed if they bring in forced flex on top of the seasonal hours and start time changes.
That’s also my thinking and I think the union also realised this. Deliveries at my office cut off daily and the managers don’t really seem to care to much.
Possibility means it is optional, as it has always been. Work your time and go home.
There are that many grey areas in this agreement I hope you're right. Wonder why they have brought it up again? As if seasonal variations and later finishes wasn't bad enough
I think honestly that we have reached a tipping point. They have made the job so unattractive to new starters, and are causing veterans to leave in their droves, that they might, just might have cottoned on to the fact that they need to make some concessions for existing staff. I know locally my managers are ignoring a lot of the orders coming to them from above, as they realise that there is no point in them being complicit in making their own job impossible to do. We are so short staffed now it is ridiculous. I’d be amazed if they bring in forced flex on top of the seasonal hours and start time changes.
It'll be interesting to see if them managers find themselves getting moved on and new managers brought in who will implement the orders from above
Possibility means it is optional, as it has always been. Work your time and go home.
There are that many grey areas in this agreement I hope you're right. Wonder why they have brought it up again? As if seasonal variations and later finishes wasn't bad enough
I think honestly that we have reached a tipping point. They have made the job so unattractive to new starters, and are causing veterans to leave in their droves, that they might, just might have cottoned on to the fact that they need to make some concessions for existing staff. I know locally my managers are ignoring a lot of the orders coming to them from above, as they realise that there is no point in them being complicit in making their own job impossible to do. We are so short staffed now it is ridiculous. I’d be amazed if they bring in forced flex on top of the seasonal hours and start time changes.
It'll be interesting to see if them managers find themselves getting moved on and new managers brought in who will implement the orders from above
They probably will but the new manager will the same staff and circumstances to work with. All delivery offices are hugely understaffed and no manager can mitigate against that.
It will be proved in the end that Royal Mail’s aggressive tactics against its staff will turn out to be a huge own goal as they killed all morale and it will never return.
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, will we all get new contracts to sign due to these changes ?
