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DirtyHarry · Post by **DirtyHarry** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:34

UNION JACK wrote:IM OUT AND GOING TO JOIN THE BNP UNION A UNION WITH REAL BALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Isn't that the one set up for Bosses lackeys , strike breakers with an aversion to going on strike, and other assorted weirdos ?

manwithnovan · Post by **manwithnovan** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:34

Only a few days ago i said get the Ky Jelly Ready NOW HERE WE ARE SHAFTED BIG TIME

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:35

DirtyHarry wrote:
UNION JACK wrote:IM OUT AND GOING TO JOIN THE BNP UNION A UNION WITH REAL BALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't that the one set up for Bosses lackeys , strike breakers with an aversion to going on strike, and other assorted weirdos ?

Bang on H!

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:36

Man wiv... WE AINT SHAFTED IF WE ALL STAND.... ITS A NO... ALL ROUND!!!!

NO!!!

DirtyHarry · Post by **DirtyHarry** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:37

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
UNION JACK wrote:IM OUT AND GOING TO JOIN THE BNP UNION A UNION WITH REAL BALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't that the one set up for Bosses lackeys , strike breakers with an aversion to going on strike, and other assorted weirdos ?
Bang on H!

Thought so, mate.

Par_BS23 · Post by **Par_BS23** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:39

Can see it now people will see 5.4% this year Â£175 early start allowance safe and only see 30 minutes flex instead of the 2 hour lee way.

I'm voting no but can see it going thro

GUVI · Post by **GUVI** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:41

wait an seewhat happens tomorrow some managers gonna try it on
think they have won and can do what they like
unofficial anyone

RedFive · Post by **RedFive** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:46

Disgraceful that this pile of pap has even been endorsed by the PEC - not especially suprised by the two numpties BH & DW - but for feck sake, as a postie this deal give no assurances whatsoever!!! No wonder it's taken the PEC so long to decide, I wonder wht their sweetener was?......

Stop to Exec Action - too late, the late starts are already here and here to stay..... Ooh, sorry forgot that Saturday's are reverting to the earlier time - if it can be arranged for a Saturday why not the rest of the week? Also - local arrangements - well I think we all know what these are like - non-existant!!!

Pay increase - nothing has changed there as it would've work out the same as any deal we'd have accepted allowing the 2.5% increase from April. Doesn't matter how much Hayes, Ward and PEC try to rose tint it!!!

D2Ds - Still no answer on this - so basically once we shaft you on this agreement we'll s**t on you for this at some point too - but let's get you back to work and clear the backlog in time for christmas....

Flexibility - again local agreement - never gonna work/happen!!!

Accept this deal at your peril - Â£175 payment/pro rata - why the hell is this even in here if we weren't selling out! As they say you don't get anything for nothing in life!

A bit fat resounding 'NO' from me - and again will be prepared to take whatever action is necessary.

Will be encouraging others in my DO to do the same - and hope we all do the same throughout the country - we all need to stick this out.

From a Glasgow postie!

RedFive.

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:49

Its all ok to say NO here but we have to get out and tell anyone who wants to know the issues and thre loop holes of this deal....

WE MAKE THE VOTE WE CAN TURN IT DOWN... BUT THE PEOPLE ON HERE ARE OF A MAJORITY WHO ARE MILITANT AND WITH A BACKBONE...

WE SAY NO BUT LETS TELL EVERYONE WHY WE SAY NO AND LET THE PEC KNOW WHY AS WELL... VOTE THEM OF NO CONFIDANCE AND GET EM OUT... BILLY N DAVE... SORRY IF YOU DONT HANDLE THIS BALLOT HOW IT SHOULD BE NO ONE WILL HAVE A JOB OR SERVICE LEFT...

NO AND NO AGAIN... SPREAD THE WORD......

:lfo :cfo

OUT

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:50

Local agreements my arse because all the bully managers will do is put everything in by their executive action

. I think I'll have a wee drink to calm myself down

max power · Post by **max power** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:51

i think its a load of bollocks
i feel let down and angry
i have printed the crap off and will show it to my office tomorrow
i actually cant see any difference to what we went on strike for ??????????????????/
apart from the 30 mins flexibilty whoop de doo

PostfromNotts · Post by **PostfromNotts** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:55

I SAY AGAIN - BACK HANDERS ARE INVOLVED HERE

vigilante · Post by **vigilante** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:56

Margate Postman wrote:my pension isnt directly involved yet so ill be voting yes. its time to accept change, im just pleased im retiring soon. the job once was decent and now look at it.

GLAD TO SEE YOUR THINKING OF THE REST OF US LEFT IN THE JOB MATE, BY VOTING YES WHEN YOU ARE GOING ANYWAY.

RedFive · Post by **RedFive** » 22 Oct 2007, 21:56

L Tommo wrote:Its all ok to say NO here but we have to get out and tell anyone who wants to know the issues and thre loop holes of this deal....

WE MAKE THE VOTE WE CAN TURN IT DOWN... BUT THE PEOPLE ON HERE ARE OF A MAJORITY WHO ARE MILITANT AND WITH A BACKBONE...

WE SAY NO BUT LETS TELL EVERYONE WHY WE SAY NO AND LET THE PEC KNOW WHY AS WELL... VOTE THEM OF NO CONFIDANCE AND GET EM OUT... BILLY N DAVE... SORRY IF YOU DONT HANDLE THIS BALLOT HOW IT SHOULD BE NO ONE WILL HAVE A JOB OR SERVICE LEFT...

NO AND NO AGAIN... SPREAD THE WORD......

:lfo :cfo

OUT

Totally agree - it's the only we we'll have a chance of stopping this s**t!

vigilante · Post by **vigilante** » 22 Oct 2007, 22:19

READING THROUGH THIS CRAP, WHAT HAS BEEN AGREED??
D2D---NOT RESOLVED, PAY---JUST THE SAME AS BEFORE, PENSIONS----WHO KNOWS, MTSF----STILL UNSURE, EVERYTHING TO BE AGREED LOCALLY????
CUTS OUT THE AREA REPS AND ISOLATES UNIT REPS-----------WAKE UP PEOPLE READY TO VOTE YES!!!!
THIS IS AN AVOIDABLE DISASTER!!!!

VOTE THIS SH*T OUT

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