Payrise

[rogersh]

Martin,
Thank you for the comprehensive response.
Having seen your post with the four points of policy for the pay deal i was anticipating we were in for a drawn out pay deal as previously has occurred. It was therefore surprising to see the video in which Terry Pullinger stated the union had put in a claim to be implemented from April 2022 to include an inflation linked pay increase plus an increase in the overtime rate. I believe the majority of full timers would welcome the pay rather than the SWW. As a part-timer myself it will be a payrise either way.

I recall a previous pay deal was intended to be a separate issue but became part of the agreement.

Edit;
JOINT STATEMENT – PAY AND SHORTER WORKING WEEK
No. 459/20

21st September 2020
(EDIT)
To agree a pay settlement for April 2020.

Our 2020 pay award is a standalone pay claim and separate from our 2019 dispute….. at number three in the Joint Statement.

[SpacePhoenix]

The impact from the opening of the Warrington Parcel Hub on RDCs , Mail Centres and Delivery Offices. The Midland Hub will also open the end of 2023. The nine mail centres which border Warrington will lose circa 25% of their outward work. YDC loses significant workload as well. All mail centres will see a reduction in their inward larger parcels.

In addition there is still a debate about how the larger parcels are delivered and by who and when. As previously stated the limit of the automation in Warrington is circa 360 selections. Therefore they will be sent to circa 320 delivery offices. Therefore Royal Mail want the format 3&4 parcels to be delivered along with the LAT from the larger offices thus meaning every delivery office loses workload.

The CWU’s position is that there can be a bull ring in the Lat office which breaks down into individual postcodes and then delivery from that office. In addition we believe that the format 3&4 parcels should not be delayed to make the LAT more cost effective but delivered on the core delivery.

Them hubs are going to have to be able to handle ANY SIZE or parcel. We get so many yorks through from other MCs (are own early and late shifts are probably guilty of the same) that are a right mix of large and small, Tracked and non-Tracked (it's the same with sleeves).

The LAT offices will likely need to send most of their vans to the MCs to collect the LAT stuff from the MC. Some MCs have done away with wave 3, so it's either that or it arrives at the MC in time to make the final dispatch.

The biggest issue for the LAT offices will be staffing, when they're probably well short on staff as it is.

I can see most of it coming back to the MCs and then going out to the "proper" DOs the next day

Dream on if you think it's going to work

[2yearpostie]

Our local LAT office cant cope now and get the parcels for our office dropped off to us on the way to them for our staff to do on docket when they get back from doing a walk.

[Martin Walsh]

Space the parcel hubs can sort format 1 &2 as well as format 3&4. The Warrington Hub automation is designed to sort 40 thousand per hour and the plan is to operate 21 hours per day.

The NW Hub will handle 10% of the overall national volume. The Midland Hub automation will have the capability to sort 60 thousand per hour and will handle a further 13% of the national volume.

Traffic for each of the parcel hubs will be taken from the Mail Centres within a defined catchment area. This RDCs and Mail Centre will incur changes to their outward and inward workload. All other mail centre's will have an impact on their indoor workload as the automated work from the hub will only required cross docking to the delivery office.

The catchment area for Warrington Hub will impact on the following

NWRDC
YDC
Warrington MC
Manchester MC
Preston MC
Chester MC
Leeds MC
Sheffield MC
Tyneside MC
NW Midlands MC

The Midlands Hub catchment area is still under discussion.

[Clappedoutpostie]

Every office is due a revision this year as part of the 3 year productivity flight path. The details of this will need further negotiations as will whether it is based on table tops or revised structural revisions.

Even the offices that had one last year?

[Martin Walsh]

All offices ! It was part of the pathway to change agreement and the 3 year productivity flight path

[A2B]

Every office is due a revision this year as part of the 3 year productivity flight path. The details of this will need further negotiations as will whether it is based on table tops or revised structural revisions.

Even the offices that had one last year?

Isn't the plan to have yearly PDA based revisions from now on, no more planners.

[Martin Walsh]

No the pathway to change stopped real time recording to be used for revisions such as PDA and scan in scan out.

Further talks will take place on whether this years Delivery revisions will be table top or structural or a mix of both.

[aiden01]

No mention of dropping to 36 or 35 hrs in the video either, wonder if they've ditched it for this year?

The union don't want the pay rise tied to anything and neither should we.

As Terry said, a one off, no strings, on time pay rise that keeps pace with inflation.

No f***ing nonsense, it's the first time he's made sense in years.

Why all the unncessary criticism directed at Terry? Every video I've ever watched him in he always makes an impassioned case for the humble postal worker on the ground, defending the USO, making an argument to grow the business through new ideas, and having reason and rationale to back up his arguments.

Most people that criticise him don't actually have the IQ to understand his position. The union is there to work with the business, not against.

Are you terry??

[A2B]

No the pathway to change stopped real time recording to be used for revisions such as PDA and scan in scan out.

Further talks will take place on whether this years Delivery revisions will be table top or structural or a mix of both.

Ok good to know

We had a table top revision, nothing changed it was just signed off to get the hour reduction. I expect the next revision to be brutual

[Acca Dacca]

No the pathway to change stopped real time recording to be used for revisions such as PDA and scan in scan out.

Further talks will take place on whether this years Delivery revisions will be table top or structural or a mix of both.

So if PDA actuals arent used for revisions ( they should be ) then what determines how much work a duty gets? In my office everyone absorbed the same number of calls regardless of how busy or light their duty was using out of date figures from 2019. Thats not good is it? I thought the whole point of it was to be fair.

[datasaint]

No mention of dropping to 36 or 35 hrs in the video either, wonder if they've ditched it for this year?

The union don't want the pay rise tied to anything and neither should we.

As Terry said, a one off, no strings, on time pay rise that keeps pace with inflation.

No f***ing nonsense, it's the first time he's made sense in years.

Why all the unncessary criticism directed at Terry? Every video I've ever watched him in he always makes an impassioned case for the humble postal worker on the ground, defending the USO, making an argument to grow the business through new ideas, and having reason and rationale to back up his arguments.

Most people that criticise him don't actually have the IQ to understand his position. The union is there to work with the business, not against.

Are you terry??

No just somebody who actually supports the goal the union are working towards. People who slate it just weaken the collective strength and image the union hold which means negotiating good outcomes becomes harder because a bunch of half-witted twits think they know the business better.

[SpacePhoenix]

All other mail centre's will have an impact on their indoor workload as the automated work from the hub will only required cross docking to the delivery office.

Some of it will have to arrive in time to make the wave 1 dispatches. You can dream on if you think that it'll all squeeze onto the wave 2 dispatches. If it's going to just go to the LAT offices then you can forget it. There won't be the capacity on any run to a LAT office.

There will be some things about how DOs work that MC staff don't understand and vice versa there will be some things about how MCs work that DOs don't understand. TBQF atm both RM and the CWU are seriously giving the impression that neither of them understands how anything works in any type of office.

So if PDA actuals arent used for revisions ( they should be ) then what determines how much work a duty gets? In my office everyone absorbed the same number of calls regardless of how busy or light their duty was using out of date figures from 2019. Thats not good is it? I thought the whole point of it was to be fair.

That's my bet as to how they'll do it. They'll use the actuals to decide the total number of hours that they're going to take out of the DO then they divide the work from them hours by the number of walks and that's how much each walk gets added to it

[citypostie]

No the pathway to change stopped real time recording to be used for revisions such as PDA and scan in scan out.

Further talks will take place on whether this years Delivery revisions will be table top or structural or a mix of both.

We had a structural revision rushed through in November, it was a mess and is just about to start to be put right and we will then be having a repick. Are you saying that we will almost straight away have another revision so will probably have another repick?

[citypostie]

No the pathway to change stopped real time recording to be used for revisions such as PDA and scan in scan out.

Further talks will take place on whether this years Delivery revisions will be table top or structural or a mix of both.

So if PDA actuals arent used for revisions ( they should be ) then what determines how much work a duty gets? In my office everyone absorbed the same number of calls regardless of how busy or light their duty was using out of date figures from 2019. Thats not good is it? I thought the whole point of it was to be fair.

Pda actuals are useless because they don't account for what speed someone's working at or how they are working. You can't base how long deliveries should be on what time someone finishes , they could be just fast and someone else on the same duty could finish hours later, it happens in our office all the time