Van sharing from Monday

[iHateD2Ds]

Screw royal mail refuse to share the van if you have any brains, and work your hours. When it comes to xmas, tell them to shove their overtime up their XXXX, leave mail behind if you have to but do not do over time. Royal mail do not care about you or your health, so why care about helping them get the office cleared every day. WORK YOUR HOURS AND GO HOME.

Everyone’s circumstances are different. I have a plan to be out of here and retire at 45 before my body is broken like most of the people here working into their late 50s and 60s.

I can’t achieve that on my 25 hour contract but can when I’m putting the OT in.

As I say everyone is different but I’d rather do 50 hours a week (15 hrs indoors/35 outdoors) than 25 hours a week (2.5 hrs indoors/22.5 outdoors). At the end of the working day I’m gonna be tired regardless of if I’m outdoors for 6 hours or 4.5 hours. I might as well earn £500 instead of £250.

Correct RM don’t care about me, I won’t care about them in 10 years. Works both ways.

And yes I’m well aware this OT won’t be available for ever. Making hay while the sun shines etc.

But catching the virus could potentially give you serious respiratory damage ,making the rest of your life miserable.
Minimising working hours temporary would to my mind lessen the risk of catching COVID?

With the average of a postal worker being 48 I unfortunately for see many people having to quit their job for health reasons
Maybe, this is RM’s tactic to get the numbers down?

Royal Mail decisions on van sharing just when there is a massive surge of infection rate Clearly demonstrates negligence on safe working practice but because it’s your choice they would not be held responsible.

I just don’ t understand why RM would allow van sharing at this moment.

[Sugar]

I just don’ t understand why RM would allow van sharing at this moment.

Because it's taken the overpaid self-indulgent incompetent fuc£wits all these months to come up with any form of a solution and this is the only one they ever had.

If Plan A doesn't work just keep trying Plan A and harassing the workforce till it somehow works in a sort of fashion or the workforce gets so fuc£ed off they just do it anyway for a quiet life.

Remember you are just a grunt with a number, they on the other hand are managers or people with very very long job titles so in their own minds by default they know more than you.

[gand]

RMtv 9 October - Shared Vans (jump to 02:02 in the clip):

Think about where you get your information from and follow all measures that protect your health?

Ok i'll get my information from the science experts and government guidelines and protect my health by not needlessly sharing a van

Are these clowns for real?!

Like Woody Guthrie said in another thread - if its so safe and theres no risk, why is it voluntary and not mandatory?

A lot of work has gone into this "collectively" with the CWU.

[ThatsNotPlumb]

RMtv 9 October - Shared Vans (jump to 02:02 in the clip):

Her reaction at 02:50 when he says "We've had enormous amount of requests & support for a return to van sharing" is exactly the same as my reaction when I heard him utter such drivel.

[cpsteve]

This virus could be around for years so we need to get back to a new normal if sitting next to someone is dangerous then millions will lose their jobs you wont be going on holidays to football, eating out a night at the pub with mates is a no no its a bleak outlook. What we need to do is follow some simple guidelines not only at work but in everything we do then we can enjoy life save jobs and keep the risk as low as possible.

[Acca Dacca]

This virus could be around for years so we need to get back to a new normal if sitting next to someone is dangerous then millions will lose their jobs you wont be going on holidays to football, eating out a night at the pub with mates is a no no its a bleak outlook. What we need to do is follow some simple guidelines not only at work but in everything we do then we can enjoy life save jobs and keep the risk as low as possible.

Yes

But we dont do it when theres a big spike and places in lockdown

The timing is a disgrace

[ddtc]

RMtv 9 October - Shared Vans (jump to 02:02 in the clip):

Ok you tell us its ok when your working from home. Hilarious. Least you could of done was appear in your office for a few minutes and film yourself there and then scurry off home protecting your family from danger

[cpsteve]

This virus could be around for years so we need to get back to a new normal if sitting next to someone is dangerous then millions will lose their jobs you wont be going on holidays to football, eating out a night at the pub with mates is a no no its a bleak outlook. What we need to do is follow some simple guidelines not only at work but in everything we do then we can enjoy life save jobs and keep the risk as low as possible.

Yes

But we dont do it when theres a big spike and places in lockdown

The timing is a disgrace

The new normal is now follow the simple rules and there is no need to worry. People eat to much drink to much drive to fast life has its risks we need to manage them not stop people from leading as normal lives as possible.

[Woody Guthrie]

The new normal is now follow the simple rules and there is no need to worry.

Whose rules?

Governments?
Royal Mails?

Pick one.
They're both different.

[Woody Guthrie]

He truth is we don't know what the new normal might be yet but some people are desperate to decide for us what that's going to be.

Why so desperate?
Fear of the unknown would be my best guess.

[Acca Dacca]

This virus could be around for years so we need to get back to a new normal if sitting next to someone is dangerous then millions will lose their jobs you wont be going on holidays to football, eating out a night at the pub with mates is a no no its a bleak outlook. What we need to do is follow some simple guidelines not only at work but in everything we do then we can enjoy life save jobs and keep the risk as low as possible.

Yes

But we dont do it when theres a big spike and places in lockdown

The timing is a disgrace

The new normal is now follow the simple rules and there is no need to worry. People eat to much drink to much drive to fast life has its risks we need to manage them not stop people from leading as normal lives as possible.

The national clinical director of Scotland today said if we can only do one thing and one thing only then ensure you are maintaining social distance where possible, that is the priority over everything else, even over wearing a mask. They know by which percentage the risk is reduced by socially distancing, they dont from wearing a mask.

We can manage the risk as you put it, by continuing to socially distancing where possible - and where possible is by continuing to have 1 to a van until the threat level is considerably lower than it is currently.

If it was not safe in July then why is it now when the cases have risen? When cities are having local lockdowns?

If returning to van sharing it is as safe as not, then why is it voluntary and not mandatory?

RM were obviously banking on it continuing to drop after the peak in April/May and fizzle out - they are worried now that it looks like its here for the winter and so ££££ is now ahead of ours and our families health.

Its the morals of it that are disgusting more than anything - even if it did make it easier for us to deliver more during our working hours - the fact that they have decided to bring it bac during a rise in cases before winter, not have the guts to take on the responsibility of the decision themselves and making it voluntary and putting pressure on those who dont comply - is a disgrace.

That guy in the RM video should be ashamed of himself but at least he has put his name to it so to speak. If there is blood on his hands then I hope he can still sleep at night.

[aiden01]

This virus could be around for years so we need to get back to a new normal if sitting next to someone is dangerous then millions will lose their jobs you wont be going on holidays to football, eating out a night at the pub with mates is a no no its a bleak outlook. What we need to do is follow some simple guidelines not only at work but in everything we do then we can enjoy life save jobs and keep the risk as low as possible.

New normal started in august an were are we now ffs even worse off.

[ThatsNotPlumb]

This virus could be around for years so we need to get back to a new normal if sitting next to someone is dangerous then millions will lose their jobs you wont be going on holidays to football, eating out a night at the pub with mates is a no no its a bleak outlook. What we need to do is follow some simple guidelines not only at work but in everything we do then we can enjoy life save jobs and keep the risk as low as possible.

It's a pretty easy decision if you're asking people to essentially choose between risking their their own & their families health & keeping their job.

[Gasman11]

This virus could be around for years so we need to get back to a new normal if sitting next to someone is dangerous then millions will lose their jobs you wont be going on holidays to football, eating out a night at the pub with mates is a no no its a bleak outlook. What we need to do is follow some simple guidelines not only at work but in everything we do then we can enjoy life save jobs and keep the risk as low as possible.

Yes

But we dont do it when theres a big spike and places in lockdown

The timing is a disgrace

The new normal is now follow the simple rules and there is no need to worry. People eat to much drink to much drive to fast life has its risks we need to manage them not stop people from leading as normal lives as possible.

The national clinical director of Scotland today said if we can only do one thing and one thing only then ensure you are maintaining social distance where possible, that is the priority over everything else, even over wearing a mask. They know by which percentage the risk is reduced by socially distancing, they dont from wearing a mask.

We can manage the risk as you put it, by continuing to socially distancing where possible - and where possible is by continuing to have 1 to a van until the threat level is considerably lower than it is currently.

If it was not safe in July then why is it now when the cases have risen? When cities are having local lockdowns?

If returning to van sharing it is as safe as not, then why is it voluntary and not mandatory?

RM were obviously banking on it continuing to drop after the peak in April/May and fizzle out - they are worried now that it looks like its here for the winter and so ££££ is now ahead of ours and our families health.

Its the morals of it that are disgusting more than anything - even if it did make it easier for us to deliver more during our working hours - the fact that they have decided to bring it bac during a rise in cases before winter, not have the guts to take on the responsibility of the decision themselves and making it voluntary and putting pressure on those who dont comply - is a disgrace.

That guy in the RM video should be ashamed of himself but at least he has put his name to it so to speak. If there is blood on his hands then I hope he can still sleep at night.

^^^^^This,

Well said that man,

[k979aaa]

This virus could be around for years so we need to get back to a new normal if sitting next to someone is dangerous then millions will lose their jobs you wont be going on holidays to football, eating out a night at the pub with mates is a no no its a bleak outlook. What we need to do is follow some simple guidelines not only at work but in everything we do then we can enjoy life save jobs and keep the risk as low as possible.

Yes

But we dont do it when theres a big spike and places in lockdown

The timing is a disgrace

The new normal is now follow the simple rules and there is no need to worry. People eat to much drink to much drive to fast life has its risks we need to manage them not stop people from leading as normal lives as possible.

The national clinical director of Scotland today said if we can only do one thing and one thing only then ensure you are maintaining social distance where possible, that is the priority over everything else, even over wearing a mask. They know by which percentage the risk is reduced by socially distancing, they dont from wearing a mask.

We can manage the risk as you put it, by continuing to socially distancing where possible - and where possible is by continuing to have 1 to a van until the threat level is considerably lower than it is currently.

If it was not safe in July then why is it now when the cases have risen? When cities are having local lockdowns?

If returning to van sharing it is as safe as not, then why is it voluntary and not mandatory?

RM were obviously banking on it continuing to drop after the peak in April/May and fizzle out - they are worried now that it looks like its here for the winter and so ££££ is now ahead of ours and our families health.

Its the morals of it that are disgusting more than anything - even if it did make it easier for us to deliver more during our working hours - the fact that they have decided to bring it bac during a rise in cases before winter, not have the guts to take on the responsibility of the decision themselves and making it voluntary and putting pressure on those who dont comply - is a disgrace.

That guy in the RM video should be ashamed of himself but at least he has put his name to it so to speak. If there is blood on his hands then I hope he can still sleep at night.

Well it's just the sort of speech he will be awarded manager of the year for two in a van is not socially distanced and is flagrantly against a covid secure workplace a f***ing mask and keeping the windows down does not mean covid secure workplace FUCKEM!