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Ideas around 5 day week
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k979aaa
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Re: Ideas around 5 day week
RM don't make any pay pension up so it will be last in first out and this is still policy in 2020.
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Ideas around 5 day week
Stop talking nonsense.
Last in first out has never been Royal Mail policy.
Only dead fish follow the current
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k979aaa
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Re: Ideas around 5 day week
They don't have to give you a contract so the last ones in will be the first ones who feel the pain as they will not pay redundancy for older staff when they can terminate a new start for nothing!Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑06 Dec 2020, 11:42Stop talking nonsense.
Last in first out has never been Royal Mail policy.
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Ideas around 5 day week
You have no idea what you're talking about and what you're posting could make people anxious and perhaps make poor employment decisions.k979aaa wrote: ↑09 Dec 2020, 22:19They don't have to give you a contract so the last ones in will be the first ones who feel the pain as they will not pay redundancy for older staff when they can terminate a new start for nothing!Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑06 Dec 2020, 11:42Stop talking nonsense.
Last in first out has never been Royal Mail policy.
Please think before you post.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Ideas around 5 day week
Although it's more expensive up front to offer VR to the longest serving first the long term savings are much greater.
Not only are they predominantly full-time and have higher holiday entitlement they also draw the bulk of allowances both current and historic, they are also prone to the kind of conditions and resultant sick absence that comes with age.
No employer wants an increasingly aging workforce and that's what last in-first out creates.
There's also the problem that compulsory redundancy can't discriminate against one particular group and last in would be all part-time staff.
Not only are they predominantly full-time and have higher holiday entitlement they also draw the bulk of allowances both current and historic, they are also prone to the kind of conditions and resultant sick absence that comes with age.
No employer wants an increasingly aging workforce and that's what last in-first out creates.
There's also the problem that compulsory redundancy can't discriminate against one particular group and last in would be all part-time staff.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Cedar_Room
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Re: Ideas around 5 day week
If it came down to the nitty gritty of compulsory redundancies,three of the most commonly used selection criteria’s are:
Length of service
Attendance
Performance & ability
To say that the amount of time you’ve been in the job won’t be taken into consideration is quite frankly,untrue
Length of service
Attendance
Performance & ability
To say that the amount of time you’ve been in the job won’t be taken into consideration is quite frankly,untrue
“Shorts,in this weather?!”
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“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Ideas around 5 day week
Has the business at any point in the discussions threatened compulsory redundancy?Cedar_Room wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 15:39If it came down to the nitty gritty of compulsory redundancies,three of the most commonly used selection criteria’s are:
Length of service
Attendance
Performance & ability
To say that the amount of time you’ve been in the job won’t be taken into consideration is quite frankly,untrue
Has the union at any point in the discussions raised the fear of compulsory redundancy?
Last in first out is not the same as using length of service as part of a scoping exercise.
That is the untruth.
Only dead fish follow the current
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k979aaa
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Re: Ideas around 5 day week
Someone's bricking it wonder why?Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 02:18Has the business at any point in the discussions threatened compulsory redundancy?Cedar_Room wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 15:39If it came down to the nitty gritty of compulsory redundancies,three of the most commonly used selection criteria’s are:
Length of service
Attendance
Performance & ability
To say that the amount of time you’ve been in the job won’t be taken into consideration is quite frankly,untrue
Has the union at any point in the discussions raised the fear of compulsory redundancy?
Last in first out is not the same as using length of service as part of a scoping exercise.
That is the untruth.
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Cedar_Room
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Re: Ideas around 5 day week
They haven’t - but who knows what they have planned for us?Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 02:18Has the business at any point in the discussions threatened compulsory redundancy?Cedar_Room wrote: ↑10 Dec 2020, 15:39If it came down to the nitty gritty of compulsory redundancies,three of the most commonly used selection criteria’s are:
Length of service
Attendance
Performance & ability
To say that the amount of time you’ve been in the job won’t be taken into consideration is quite frankly,untrue
Has the union at any point in the discussions raised the fear of compulsory redundancy?
Last in first out is not the same as using length of service as part of a scoping exercise.
That is the untruth.
What I do know is that RM never,ever look at the ‘bigger picture’ & if there are two postie’s & one position,one fella with 3yrs service & another with 18yrs - it won’t be the senior guy who is shown the door
“Shorts,in this weather?!”
“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”
“What’s she been ordering now?”
“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”
“What’s she been ordering now?”