So what time is the result?

Kodal · Post by **Kodal** » 28 Mar 2018, 17:21

Wish I could

loverman shabba wrote:voted in 90.1% yes. thats gotta be some kinda joke. glad I'm getting out in the next few months

Post by **tinkerdil** » 28 Mar 2018, 17:21

It's a ringing endorsement from those who care to vote.

hans solo · Post by **hans solo** » 28 Mar 2018, 17:40

tick tock just wait for the industrial unrest when cwu realise they have given rm the go ahead to pursue their real agendas

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 28 Mar 2018, 17:45

When can I put in a transfer to a full-time cushy mail centre role??

Less hours for increased pay, nice night shift allowance, payment for D2Ds (even though you don't actually deliver any) and no bull from managers regarding leaving any mail/packets back.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 28 Mar 2018, 17:52

postslippete wrote:When can I put in a transfer to a full-time cushy mail centre role??

Less hours for increased pay, nice night shift allowance, payment for D2Ds (even though you don't actually deliver any) and no bull from managers regarding leaving any mail/packets back.

No one is pad for D2Ds, no wonder we got a Yes vote if people still don't understand old agreements.

MCs are paid a supplement thats roughly a 1/3 of the delivery one.

Yes - I am angry that this D2D crap still gets posted.

Max_Power · Post by **Max_Power** » 28 Mar 2018, 17:54

Great result, no sympathy for those who don't use their votes.

Any information to when we can expect our back pay and pay rise? next week??

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 28 Mar 2018, 18:00

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
postslippete wrote:When can I put in a transfer to a full-time cushy mail centre role??

Less hours for increased pay, nice night shift allowance, payment for D2Ds (even though you don't actually deliver any) and no bull from managers regarding leaving any mail/packets back.

No one is pad for D2Ds, no wonder we got a Yes vote if people still don't understand old agreements.

MCs are paid a supplement thats roughly a 1/3 of the delivery one.

Yes - I am angry that this D2D crap still gets posted.

Well thats because the old agreements are just as bad as these new agreements. I used to make quite a bit of dosh doing those D2Ds until the Union scrapped them and I never used to mind posting the D2D crap that you call it.

Post by **the.postman** » 28 Mar 2018, 18:02

Well that's given RM a license to do "IN PRINCIPLE" what ever they want.
How anyone can vote yes to this kind of "agreement" is beyond me

Post by **IloveMYredTROLLEY!** » 28 Mar 2018, 18:05

About this time next year, I suspect many of the yes voters will be scratching their heads, because unknown target levels for unknown specific trials have not been met so there are no further conditional pay increases and no further shortening of the full time working week.

The only unconditional improvement for us was the backdated pay increase of 5% from October 2017 to the end of this financial year, as far as I'm aware.

How this provisional agreement of "if, buts and maybes" has had a ~90% yes vote from ~55% of the members is unbelievable to me. I hope they don't reap what they have sewn and I expect what is effectively "working for free" (through starting before contract times, not taking and not claiming meal relief, working past contract hours without claiming) is going to go through the roof.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 28 Mar 2018, 18:08

postslippete wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
postslippete wrote:When can I put in a transfer to a full-time cushy mail centre role??

Less hours for increased pay, nice night shift allowance, payment for D2Ds (even though you don't actually deliver any) and no bull from managers regarding leaving any mail/packets back.

No one is pad for D2Ds, no wonder we got a Yes vote if people still don't understand old agreements.

MCs are paid a supplement thats roughly a 1/3 of the delivery one.

Yes - I am angry that this D2D crap still gets posted.

Well thats because the old agreements are just as bad as these new agreements. I used to make quite a bit of dosh doing those D2Ds until the Union scrapped them and I never used to mind posting the D2D crap that you call it.

You misread my post. The D2Ds aren't crap. What keeps getting posted about the payments for them is.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 28 Mar 2018, 18:10

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:About this time next year, I suspect many of the yes voters will be scratching their heads, because unknown target levels for unknown specific trials have not been met so there are no further conditional pay increases and no further shortening of the full time working week.

The only unconditional improvement for us was the backdated pay increase of 5% from October 2017 to the end of this financial year, as far as I'm aware.

How this provisional agreement of "if, buts and maybes" has had a ~90% yes vote from ~55% of the members is unbelievable to me. I hope they don't reap what they have sewn.

They just looked at the back pay not the future I am sure they will have plenty of time repenting in the not too distant future!

Whysoslowyehcfc · Post by **Whysoslowyehcfc** » 28 Mar 2018, 18:33

well done lads

hans solo · Post by **hans solo** » 28 Mar 2018, 18:35

Max_Power wrote:Great result, no sympathy for those who don't use their votes.

Any information to when we can expect our back pay and pay rise? next week??

because thats all that mattered

number one · Post by **number one** » 28 Mar 2018, 18:43

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:About this time next year, I suspect many of the yes voters will be scratching their heads, because unknown target levels for unknown specific trials have not been met so there are no further conditional pay increases and no further shortening of the full time working week.

The only unconditional improvement for us was the backdated pay increase of 5% from October 2017 to the end of this financial year, as far as I'm aware.

How this provisional agreement of "if, buts and maybes" has had a ~90% yes vote from ~55% of the members is unbelievable to me. I hope they don't reap what they have sewn and I expect what is effectively "working for free" (through starting before contract times, not taking and not claiming meal relief, working past contract hours without claiming) is going to go through the roof.

Somebody else that has to read the agreement!!!

Max_Power · Post by **Max_Power** » 28 Mar 2018, 19:42

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:About this time next year, I suspect many of the yes voters will be scratching their heads, because unknown target levels for unknown specific trials have not been met so there are no further conditional pay increases and no further shortening of the full time working week.

The only unconditional improvement for us was the backdated pay increase of 5% from October 2017 to the end of this financial year, as far as I'm aware.

How this provisional agreement of "if, buts and maybes" has had a ~90% yes vote from ~55% of the members is unbelievable to me. I hope they don't reap what they have sewn and I expect what is effectively "working for free" (through starting before contract times, not taking and not claiming meal relief, working past contract hours without claiming) is going to go through the roof.

Page 12 of the agreement states there is another 2% rise in pay from 1st April 2019.

The next Pay review date is 1st April 2020.