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Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

JoeWagg wrote:Right. Just wanting to know the answer to a simple question which I've been given a few different answers.
If you start employment at Royal Mail on the same day as a bunch of other people, who has the most seniority when it comes to say a repick/vacancies etc? We got told at the induction that the person who was the oldest automatically ranks highest re seniority in such a scenario but people at work beg to differ. Help.
Yes it's date of birth, the Way Forward Agreement stating "13.1 Where several employees start on the same day, the following factors will determine the relative order: firstly, any periods of Post Office service on other grades, secondly, date of selection and, thirdly, date of birth". :thumbup
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Post by mbavelja »

by dingo » 24 Jul 2016, 10:42

When the Age Discrimination law came in Royal Mail wrote the union amending a number of National Agreements which under their legal department breach the new law.

The first was that in age order between 55-65 could opt for VR first under MTSF

The second was than anyone between 50 and 60 could keep pay protection 60 rather the than 3 year pay protection limit ( when BT2010 agreement came in they increased on certain pay protection to 5 years.

Equally the third one was that could no longer use age when deciding who was more senior.
Round up the usual suspects.
greavsey
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Post by greavsey »

It is definitely the oldest. Seniority? Self explanatory don't you agree?
cobrakai
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Post by cobrakai »

Date of Birth is how it used to be done.
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Post by themailman »

I wonder if any office has ever done away with seniority.
It would be a positive step in my opinion.
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Post by NewPostieUK »

greavsey wrote:It is definitely the oldest. Seniority? Self explanatory don't you agree?
Nope, a 32 year old with 16 years service would be higher up the seniority list than a 50 year old with 19 years in.
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Post by fishtank »

It's often done on the toss of a coin these days.
The reasons are other PO service is unusual and not normally relevant, date of birth is legally "dubious" and date of selection previous to 2000 is difficult to provide because HR records of these details appear to be pretty sparse.

In most cases a bit of common sense is what's needed.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Post by DiamondSmiles »

themailman wrote:I wonder if any office has ever done away with seniority.
It would be a positive step in my opinion.
Positive for who exactly?
Ricardo44
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Post by Ricardo44 »

They might as well do away with seniority. In my office they never advertise vacant duties and never have a repick.

Duties are just handed to the managers favourites or whoever they feel like giving them to while others with more years in are never given a chance.

Totally unfair :arrrghhh