Royal Mail's take on the new agreement...

[OnAFlyer]

Whats a "can do culture" in RM terms? I can work past my hours and be late for my kids? I can agree that the duty your revising is possible to do in 4 hours and not the 6 hours it will take?
It would be nice if they could explain exactly what a "can-do culture" is....they "can-do it" ....can't they?

No, the 30 mins flex is still in place and it works both ways.

Not in my doms eye it doesn't

Well they can get out of it by saying they need the 30 mins so you can't start/finish early when you wanted - but if they keep saying that then tell them no in return when they ask you to flex up.

[Postaltony]

I sense a no vote here.
Take the pre Christmas money, vote no to this lousy deal.
The pay rise seems ok ish. But the rest is open for abuse, misinterpretation and could be manipulated to create a situation where the legally binding bit is broken legally.

[gashead-postie]

I sense a no vote here.
Take the pre Christmas money, vote no to this lousy deal.
The pay rise seems ok ish. But the rest is open for abuse, misinterpretation and could be manipulated to create a situation where the legally binding bit is broken legally.

basically it means there will be no backing at national level for brave offices like crewe who chose to walk...sort it out yourself locally

thanks a lot

[Red Robbo]

I sense a no vote here.
Take the pre Christmas money, vote no to this lousy deal.
The pay rise seems ok ish. But the rest is open for abuse, misinterpretation and could be manipulated to create a situation where the legally binding bit is broken legally.

basically it means there will be no backing at national level for brave offices like crewe who chose to walk...sort it out yourself locally

thanks a lot

Not forgetting Weston Super Mare

[mr hil.]

Either party can give 30 days notice to remove any or all of the legally binding agreement....just like the Pensions all over again , they send out their proposal ask for your views than do what they like anyway!

[freelunch]

basically it means there will be no backing at national level for brave offices like crewe who chose to walk...sort it out yourself locally

5.3 Special Mediation
Where despite the best endeavours of both Royal Mail and CWU, unballoted industrial action occurs, the Divisional Representative (or equivalent) and the Head of Industrial Relations will be immediately informed. They will work with the local representatives of both parties to identify the cause of the industrial action, resolve differences, return to work and if necessary engage in due process. Unless there is an expectation of a quick return to work they will arrange for Special Mediators to be appointed.
The purpose of Special Mediation is to ensure an immediate return to work while issues and grievances are investigated.

[k979aaa]

basically it means there will be no backing at national level for brave offices like crewe who chose to walk...sort it out yourself locally

5.3 Special Mediation
Where despite the best endeavours of both Royal Mail and CWU, unballoted industrial action occurs, the Divisional Representative (or equivalent) and the Head of Industrial Relations will be immediately informed. They will work with the local representatives of both parties to identify the cause of the industrial action, resolve differences, return to work and if necessary engage in due process. Unless there is an expectation of a quick return to work they will arrange for Special Mediators to be appointed.
The purpose of Special Mediation is to ensure an immediate return to work while issues and grievances are investigated.

And swept under the magic carpet of ROYAL MAIL where nothing is ever seen again!

[knackeredneedadayoff]

One word jOKE ,what were the fecking union thinking with this ,Rm must be laughing

[dave0876]

Its a No vote from me i feel.

[Jynxx]

2. Participation
- Both parties will work together to respond to competitive challenges and develop new approaches to improve efficiency
- Royal Mail and CWU will work together to develop and implement business strategies.
- A newly created "Growth Forum". Three senior executives from both parties, including the CEO and the CWU's Deputy General Secretary, to drive change across the company.

I thought we paid our union dues for the CWU to help employee's not to help RM create new "growth" strategies to "drive" across the company.....i'm a little curious if any of the CWU 3 have shares in RM , shouldn't they now be on the RM pay role and not the CWU's?
.... Driving....since Moya has a company car has she had to take the driver awareness course like the rest of us? (I know off topic just curious)

[k979aaa]

2. Participation
- Both parties will work together to respond to competitive challenges and develop new approaches to improve efficiency
- Royal Mail and CWU will work together to develop and implement business strategies.
- A newly created "Growth Forum". Three senior executives from both parties, including the CEO and the CWU's Deputy General Secretary, to drive change across the company.

I thought we paid our union dues for the CWU to help employee's not to help RM create new "growth" strategies to "drive" across the company.....i'm a little curious if any of the CWU 3 have shares in RM , shouldn't they now be on the RM pay role and not the CWU's?
.... Driving....since Moya has a company car has she had to take the driver awareness course like the rest of us? (I know off topic just curious)

From what I hear she has a jet paid for on expense account leaving on a jet plane to California or should that be Canada!

[frank doyle]

I will be voting yes to this agreement . I dont think our union could negotiate a better deal than the one that is on offer . I know we seem to have heard it all before just words on paper and RM not following previous agreements . But what else could we seriously achieve , from what I have read they have addressed the pay B&H IR workload etc . I am not sure what sort of agreement that our members expected to see and be happy with . I work in Delivery and I am fully aware of the problems that we face in that area . I cannot comment on mail centre distribution etc , But I live in hope that our situation can only improve with a fresh approach from both sides !

[k979aaa]

That's all we need more bloody fantasists they our union could not have negotiated a better agreement well I just hope they did not handle the NAZI surrender or we would all be talking German now!

[frank doyle]

And what would you propose K979aaa ????????????

[wandle]

i'm a little curious if any of the CWU 3 have shares in RM , shouldn't they now be on the RM pay role and not the CWU's?

I can confirm that the "CWU 3" do have shares in RM.
But then, so do you. So do I. So does k979aaa, fishtank, dvbuk etc etc.

What you mean is, did any of our negotiators buy extra shares, and did that have a bearing on their agreeing to extension after extension, and holding back the troops?