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celerycelery
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Re: Going off Route

Post by celerycelery »

Have said this before but we had a postie sacked for taking a pee down the side of 2 houses in the hedge. Would say taking van home for a toilet break is quite acceptable if no facilities on the round. If not then take it back to the office and use that toilet.
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Re: Going off Route

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celerycelery wrote:Have said this before but we had a postie sacked for taking a pee down the side of 2 houses in the hedge. Would say taking van home for a toilet break is quite acceptable if no facilities on the round. If not then take it back to the office and use that toilet.
"down the side of 2 houses" was silly, even dogs only need one. :crazy:
But this thread isn't about taking the van home for a toilet break, it's about taking the van home for a meal break :cuppa which surely is not acceptable unless your home is on the authorised delivery route which in this case it was not. :Very Happy
fishtank
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Re: Going off Route

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Lounge Lizard wrote: But this thread isn't about taking the van home for a toilet break, it's about taking the van home for a meal break :cuppa which surely is not acceptable unless your home is on the authorised delivery route which in this case it was not. :Very Happy
I wouldn't say it was unacceptable but i would say it would be advisable to inform management beforehand that you would be having your meal relief at home.
I would imagine,depending on the distance involved it wouldn't be an issue in 99% of cases.
Obviously taking mail home at any time could be viewed as an increased security risk by an awkward manager.
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Re: Going off Route

Post by clashcityrocker »

fishtank wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote: But this thread isn't about taking the van home for a toilet break, it's about taking the van home for a meal break :cuppa which surely is not acceptable unless your home is on the authorised delivery route which in this case it was not. :Very Happy
I wouldn't say it was unacceptable but i would say it would be advisable to inform management beforehand that you would be having your meal relief at home.
I would imagine,depending on the distance involved it wouldn't be an issue in 99% of cases.
Obviously taking mail home at any time could be viewed as an increased security risk by an awkward manager.
It is impossible to give a valid opinion without knowing all the facts.
Was she popping 2 minutes round the corner -
Or was she driving 20 minutes each way and putting 40 minutes on her docket?
We don't know.
Had she been previously advised this was unacceptable? This is the logical first step in any conduct issue.
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hatetheboss
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Re: Going off Route

Post by hatetheboss »

She went off route by 25 seconds what if I then said she got a 2 year serious and a 1 year ban from driving :crazy:
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Going off Route

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hatetheboss wrote:She went off route by 25 seconds what if I then said she got a 2 year serious and a 1 year ban from driving :crazy:
So there's no shortage of drivers at your office then. :Very Happy
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Re: Going off Route

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Also came across this Lounge Lizard.

On the most serious side (rarely seen, thankfully) if they expose their genitals with intent that a person sees them and is caused alarm or distress this is an offence S.66 under the Sexual Offences Act 2003 and they could end up on the Sex Offenders Register.
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PhilthyPhil
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Re: Going off Route

Post by PhilthyPhil »

What does off route even mean? None of our deliveries or collections have a specified route for getting to/from the start/finish. I could quite easily argue that since I live in the same town as the DO the route I use goes past my house and I am therefore not off route :hmmmm
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Re: Going off Route

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brothermagrew wrote:Also came across this Lounge Lizard.

On the most serious side (rarely seen, thankfully) if they expose their genitals with intent that a person sees them and is caused alarm or distress this is an offence S.66 under the Sexual Offences Act 2003 and they could end up on the Sex Offenders Register.
No doubt, but that's not quite the same your honour as having a slash behind a hedge half a mile from any other person, vehicle or building. :crazy:
billyboy123
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Re: Going off Route

Post by billyboy123 »

if u need the toilet or a place to rest/eat then return to d/o inform ur manager that this will be the case in future unless of course they have named places for ur toilet break and a place for u to eat on ur delivery route
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Re: Going off Route

Post by blackadder »

as far as know meal breaks have to be taken in the depot, unless you a diabettic. if shes gone gone for a quick toilet then who aint. gone home for 30 mins then unlucky
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Re: Going off Route

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blackadder wrote:as far as know meal breaks have to be taken in the depot, unless you a diabettic. if shes gone gone for a quick toilet then who aint. gone home for 30 mins then unlucky
No.
"Meal breaks must be taken ..... away from the work station ...." - so how can this be "in the depot" when there's no canteen, no rest room, no chairs or table even ? :shock:
justdeno
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Re: Going off Route

Post by justdeno »

Exactly,we are rural, cycle and van duties, no rest facilities, should we take our meal break on the bike /van in the rain,snow, minus 15, if we live in the area why can't we pop home, :hmmmm
blackadder
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Re: Going off Route

Post by blackadder »

aint you got a room with chairs and a telly ?? thats so wrong, complain to your rep
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Re: Going off Route

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blackadder wrote:as far as know meal breaks have to be taken in the depot, unless you a diabettic. if shes gone gone for a quick toilet then who aint. gone home for 30 mins then unlucky

Thats one thing they can't enforce.

They can tell when to take a break, as long as its within the rules, but you are allowed to take the break where you want. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... G_10029451" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The requirements are:
the break must be in one block
it cannot be taken off one end of the working day - it must be somewhere in the middle
you are allowed to spend it away from the place on your employer's premises where you work
your employer can say when the break must be taken, as long as it meets these conditions
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