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Park and Loop query???

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Stormproof wrote:There arn't any zips Postman, the are just delivery pouches hooked on to a golf trolley. Zips must be a London thing :chuckle
Never seen a P&L trolley in action. :oops:
How do you secure the mail then?
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POSTMAN wrote:
Stormproof wrote:There arn't any zips Postman, the are just delivery pouches hooked on to a golf trolley. Zips must be a London thing :chuckle
Never seen a P&L trolley in action. :oops:
How do you secure the mail then?
There are clips with holes in that are fixed to the straps of the bags( the same bags we use for on the shoulder) and are fixes to two hooks either side of the trolley.One bag for packets and one for the bundles of mail.
There is no security on the bags at all as someone could quite easily just put there hand in the pouch and walk off with something whilst in a block of flats or when you have to go up steps to a property.
Another problem I find is when it rains its unprotected, before when it was on the shoulder you had your arm over it protecting it from the elements.
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Can't really see the clips on the bags from this pic, but this is 1 duty of mine on P & L
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where are the parcels??
The driver has 8 bags in the back and the walker puts his 8 bags in the side door.
That picture only shows 8 bags and 2 trolleys.
It should show it with 16 bags for the 2 loops and all the parcels squashed on top
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eastie wrote:where are the parcels??
The driver has 8 bags in the back and the walker puts his 8 bags in the side door.
That picture only shows 8 bags and 2 trolleys.
It should show it with 16 bags for the 2 loops and all the parcels squashed on top
That is a demonstration picture of how the planners BELIEVE it should be..................the reality of course is entirely different.
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Thats a self convey P & L and all the parcels are behind the bags. If it was one of my other duties the van would be totally full. Only put the picture up to show how P & L is re bags & clips and there is only 1 trolley there.
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dvbuk55 wrote:
eastie wrote:where are the parcels??
The driver has 8 bags in the back and the walker puts his 8 bags in the side door.
That picture only shows 8 bags and 2 trolleys.
It should show it with 16 bags for the 2 loops and all the parcels squashed on top
That is a demonstration picture of how the planners BELIEVE it should be..................the reality of course is entirely different.
No I'm just a bit OCD about keeping the van tidy, a place for everything and everything in its place if you know what I mean, less time f***ing about when I get back :Very Happy
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Stormproof wrote:Thats a self convey P & L and all the parcels are behind the bags. If it was one of my other duties the van would be totally full. Only put the picture up to show how P & L is re bags & clips and there is only 1 trolley there.
When you say a self convey p&l do you mean there's only you in the van? Which really defeats the object of the agreement - why would an urban delivery need a van for 1 person?
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dvbuk55 wrote:
Stormproof wrote:Thats a self convey P & L and all the parcels are behind the bags. If it was one of my other duties the van would be totally full. Only put the picture up to show how P & L is re bags & clips and there is only 1 trolley there.
When you say a self convey p&l do you mean there's only you in the van? Which really defeats the object of the agreement - why would an urban delivery need a van for 1 person?
We've a few self convey p&l duties. Still works the same but I guess being on the edge of town it did'nt pair up with another one locally. TBH i wish they were all self conveys especially with some of the people you get paired up with.Image
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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Stormproof wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
Stormproof wrote:Thats a self convey P & L and all the parcels are behind the bags. If it was one of my other duties the van would be totally full. Only put the picture up to show how P & L is re bags & clips and there is only 1 trolley there.
When you say a self convey p&l do you mean there's only you in the van? Which really defeats the object of the agreement - why would an urban delivery need a van for 1 person?
We've a few self convey p&l duties. Still works the same but I guess being on the edge of town it did'nt pair up with another one locally. TBH i wish they were all self conveys especially with some of the people you get paired up with.Image
How was it formerly delivered? As it is it's a stand alone duty NOT P&L by any stretch of the imagination. If it was P&L there would be two doing the loops and then moving on as a pair to a new area.
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dvbuk55 wrote:
Stormproof wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
Stormproof wrote:Thats a self convey P & L and all the parcels are behind the bags. If it was one of my other duties the van would be totally full. Only put the picture up to show how P & L is re bags & clips and there is only 1 trolley there.
When you say a self convey p&l do you mean there's only you in the van? Which really defeats the object of the agreement - why would an urban delivery need a van for 1 person?
We've a few self convey p&l duties. Still works the same but I guess being on the edge of town it did'nt pair up with another one locally. TBH i wish they were all self conveys especially with some of the people you get paired up with.Image
How was it formerly delivered? As it is it's a stand alone duty NOT P&L by any stretch of the imagination. If it was P&L there would be two doing the loops and then moving on as a pair to a new area.
It used to be delivered by throwing the postman out of a moving minibus with his bag, then timed bags thereafter :Very Happy It is P & L, i do a loop or 2 from the van then move it.
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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Stormproof wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
Stormproof wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
Stormproof wrote:Thats a self convey P & L and all the parcels are behind the bags. If it was one of my other duties the van would be totally full. Only put the picture up to show how P & L is re bags & clips and there is only 1 trolley there.
When you say a self convey p&l do you mean there's only you in the van? Which really defeats the object of the agreement - why would an urban delivery need a van for 1 person?
We've a few self convey p&l duties. Still works the same but I guess being on the edge of town it did'nt pair up with another one locally. TBH i wish they were all self conveys especially with some of the people you get paired up with.Image
How was it formerly delivered? As it is it's a stand alone duty NOT P&L by any stretch of the imagination. If it was P&L there would be two doing the loops and then moving on as a pair to a new area.
It used to be delivered by throwing the postman out of a moving minibus with his bag, then timed bags thereafter :Very Happy It is P & L, i do a loop or 2 from the van then move it.
So the van is really a mobile drop point and a total waste of resources as a P&L modernisation. There would be nothing wrong with carrying a second person doing the loops and moving on to another area - the planning certainly left a lot to be desired when a walking delivery became a van delivery. I would be very mindful of what was to come with that sort of planning.
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Is it me because i only have 2 pouches and i have to use the long rm bags - the one where you usually put packets in! :'(
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eastie wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Stormproof wrote:There arn't any zips Postman, the are just delivery pouches hooked on to a golf trolley. Zips must be a London thing :chuckle
Never seen a P&L trolley in action. :oops:
How do you secure the mail then?
There are clips with holes in that are fixed to the straps of the bags( the same bags we use for on the shoulder) and are fixes to two hooks either side of the trolley.One bag for packets and one for the bundles of mail.
There is no security on the bags at all as someone could quite easily just put there hand in the pouch and walk off with something whilst in a block of flats or when you have to go up steps to a property.
Another problem I find is when it rains its unprotected, before when it was on the shoulder you had your arm over it protecting it from the elements.
Which begs 2 things...
1:How did those bags get through the mail integrity safety don't get it nicked thing,and...
2:I should get out of the cupboard more. :neutral:
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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First time ever i seen a postwomen using the little golf trolleys - looks so pathetic...I have a doubtful feeling me+trolley = :Very Happy