Thanks for the clarification.vanman wrote:To answer the original question> Re-employment after redundancy is covered off in Appendix 10 of the MTSF agreement.rnb147 wrote:Hi, I have been told that the time limit on re-joining R.M. after taking EVR is now six month's, whereas it used to be eighteen.
Can anyone clarify this.?
Thanks.
Without reproducing the whole section, the relevant paragraphs are:
3.2 Guiding Principles
3.2.1 No one who has left Royal Mail Group (Consignia prior to 4 November 2002 and The Post Office
prior to 26 March 2001) on the grounds of redundancy or TMA will be re-employed or engaged by
Royal Mail Group on any type of employment or other contract, until at least a period of two years
after termination of employment has elapsed or ever in the case of former employees in receipt of a
pension. There will be rare exceptions to this e.g. BPCS engage consultant associates to carry out
work for a third party.
3.4.4 Policy
An individual who has left Royal Mail Group, Consignia plc or The Post Office on Voluntary
Redundancy Terms (or equivalent) or TMA and who is in receipt of a pension from the Royal Mail
Pension Plan will not be re-employed or re-engaged under any circumstances.
3.5.3 An individual who has left Royal Mail Group plc, Consignia plc or The Post Office on Voluntary
Redundancy Terms (or equivalent) or TMA but who is not in receipt of a pension from the Royal
Mail Pension Plan will not be re-employed or re-engaged before a period of two years has elapsed
following the termination of employment.
In summary - if you've gone on VR with your pension - you can't come back, if not - then only after two years.
Simples!!
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Re- joining after taking EVR
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rnb147
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mr deeds
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good luck with the evr dont blame you for trying to shaft r/m (a job is a job) and come back...they have sacked /bullied and sh*t on all staff for ages ...would be nice to see someone do them over...but with the above info it dont look like happening...all the best for the future and please find a better employer than rm
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carlisle
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Re: Re- joining after taking EVR
Litter picking or arse wiping, both better and more job satisfaction OH you may get thanks at the endTman wrote:Have a long hard look at the alternatives, then you'll see....Pompey Boy wrote:Why would anyone want to go back to RM??
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fishtank
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Tman wrote:Have a long hard look at the alternatives, then you'll see....Pompey Boy wrote:Why would anyone want to go back to RM??
There's always your personal favourite Tman..Burger Flippin.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Tman
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Yeah, and taxi-driving, Tesco night shift shelf filler, care home nappy changer, office cleaner.There's always your personal favourite Tman..Burger Flippin.
The world's your lobster these days....
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Pompey Boy
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How will a senior man cope with no seniority - very difficult I would have thoughtrnb147 wrote:Listen, I have done my bit over the years,went out when we were asked to and lost money like the rest when people stayed in and worked.So don't give me that crap.
How much worse can it get? A LOT F****** WORSE !!!
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La Poste
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I thought seniority will be a thing of the past soon.Pompey Boy wrote:How will a senior man cope with no seniority - very difficult I would have thought
I heard that was RM's plan.
No I'm not being paranoid, they really are out to get me.
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fishtank
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La Poste wrote:I thought seniority will be a thing of the past soon.Pompey Boy wrote:How will a senior man cope with no seniority - very difficult I would have thought
I heard that was RM's plan.
That's been RMs plan for years now but the union keeps fighting it.
It won't be going any time soon.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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La Poste
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Good good.fishtank wrote:That's been RMs plan for years now but the union keeps fighting it.
It won't be going any time soon.
No I'm not being paranoid, they really are out to get me.
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plainpat
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Re: Re- joining after taking EVR
What you have to weigh up is whether the EVR money you get is worth it given that
a) You probably had a permanent round before, and will be returning to be a Floater, Relief Man, or whatever other cr*p position they put you in.
b) You will have lost all 'Grandfather' rights you had, ie driving allowance, early shift allowance etc
c) Complete loss of all seniority you had for repicks, holidays etc
d) Loss of permanent contract
a) You probably had a permanent round before, and will be returning to be a Floater, Relief Man, or whatever other cr*p position they put you in.
b) You will have lost all 'Grandfather' rights you had, ie driving allowance, early shift allowance etc
c) Complete loss of all seniority you had for repicks, holidays etc
d) Loss of permanent contract
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fmrPOSTIE
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A job with RM is still much better than being without a job/on the dole!
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baldrick
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Even if it's a one hour contract?fmrPOSTIE wrote:A job with RM is still much better than being without a job/on the dole!
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fmrPOSTIE
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Well no, I wouldn't even bother. RM should be ashamed of themselves for offering people these contracts.