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New DPR method

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menditsa
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Re: New DPR method

Post by menditsa »

Smoothbackground wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 16:52
With this new way, the idea is that the manifest is done in draft during the indoor sort, which is then sent in draft and accessed by you in Outdoor while still in draft, meaning (i) you then add and/or remove errant stray missorts; (ii) you reorder the stops; (iii) you number your parcels, load up, hit the road…
Excluding LATS for now.
All parcels that come into my DO are manually sorted into yorks for large parcels and half red expendable's for small items by walk number.
At this point they have not been scanned yet.
The people coming in at 11.00 until 14.00 (DPR Drivers) have never covered walks and have never been trained on sorting, they just scan everything from a york until 4 hours delivery time shows on the PDA. They have no clue about mis-sorts and the LM only cares that your route is 4 hours long.
Hence why we have 4 vans delivering in the same road at times :arrrghhh
I'm due to move to this 14.00 - 20.30 shift at the end of the month and know I'm going to have problems with this LM as he always brags "HIS" drivers can do 30/40 drops an hour. Yeah they can but they doorstep without ringing or knocking, never P739 if they leave safe or fail the delivery.
He has informed me I won't be covering the section area I know and have covered for the last 4 years. I'll be thrown on different areas everyday.
Doing the job properly I average between 15/20 drops per hour on area's I know very well (In Daylight)
Come the time when it get's dark at 16.00 I'd like to know what the CWU Health and Safety policy will be regarding doing your whole shift in darkness.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: New DPR method

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TopperGas wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 18:32
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 06:30
Flashman_ wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 04:42
I get several mis sorts, either in the wrong route or house number or even completely the wrong address entered into the system(usually house numbers wrong)
Does the address printed on the item match the address encoded in the 2D barcode? The system will be going on the address encoded in the 2D barcode.
Not always, around half you have to self select the house number or name, with the latter the person scanning just seems to guess what might be the nearest if there's no accurate match, so you get to "Rose Cottage" only to find it's "Rosemary Cottage" so you then have to use Google or similar to try and locate the correct address.
If it's mostly ones from the same sender, get the manger to send an email off to someone who can contact the sender and get them to fix whatever glitch is causing the address printed on the items to be different from the address encoded in the 2D barcode
Hitcher
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Re: New DPR method

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menditsa wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:43
All parcels that come into my DO are manually sorted into yorks for large parcels and half red expendable's for small items by walk number.
At this point they have not been scanned yet.
Under the new scheme large parcels will be scanned by the sorters, the PDA will tell them which DPR route it belongs to and they'll be put into the correct cages ready for the DPR guys.
Smoothbackground
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Re: New DPR method

Post by Smoothbackground »

menditsa wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:43
Smoothbackground wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 16:52
With this new way, the idea is that the manifest is done in draft during the indoor sort, which is then sent in draft and accessed by you in Outdoor while still in draft, meaning (i) you then add and/or remove errant stray missorts; (ii) you reorder the stops; (iii) you number your parcels, load up, hit the road…
Excluding LATS for now.
All parcels that come into my DO are manually sorted into yorks for large parcels and half red expendable's for small items by walk number.
At this point they have not been scanned yet.
The people coming in at 11.00 until 14.00 (DPR Drivers) have never covered walks and have never been trained on sorting, they just scan everything from a york until 4 hours delivery time shows on the PDA. They have no clue about mis-sorts and the LM only cares that your route is 4 hours long.
Hence why we have 4 vans delivering in the same road at times :arrrghhh
I'm due to move to this 14.00 - 20.30 shift at the end of the month and know I'm going to have problems with this LM as he always brags "HIS" drivers can do 30/40 drops an hour. Yeah they can but they doorstep without ringing or knocking, never P739 if they leave safe or fail the delivery.
He has informed me I won't be covering the section area I know and have covered for the last 4 years. I'll be thrown on different areas everyday.
Doing the job properly I average between 15/20 drops per hour on area's I know very well (In Daylight)
Come the time when it get's dark at 16.00 I'd like to know what the CWU Health and Safety policy will be regarding doing your whole shift in darkness.
It sounds like your place hasn’t yet started using the new indoor sort tool. The missorts should be much less in number given that the PDA sorting tool will tell whoever is sorting which york the parcel goes in. It has worked that way at ours, though there have been a few issues with addresses being wrong when scanned etc. Sounds like your early people just scan up random 4-hr routes going here, there and everywhere.
kazardaimenu
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Re: New DPR method

Post by kazardaimenu »

Hitcher wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 00:18
menditsa wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:43
All parcels that come into my DO are manually sorted into yorks for large parcels and half red expendable's for small items by walk number.
At this point they have not been scanned yet.
Under the new scheme large parcels will be scanned by the sorters, the PDA will tell them which DPR route it belongs to and they'll be put into the correct cages ready for the DPR guys.
Then do the DPR guys scan them again to create a manifest? Additional items will be thrown out by the posties and some items to posties will be able to take for the driver.
kazardaimenu
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Re: New DPR method

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Ideally the rounds would be made smaller and one person would take everything for the area but that would be too efficient for RM.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: New DPR method

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kazardaimenu wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 07:13
Hitcher wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 00:18
menditsa wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:43
All parcels that come into my DO are manually sorted into yorks for large parcels and half red expendable's for small items by walk number.
At this point they have not been scanned yet.
Under the new scheme large parcels will be scanned by the sorters, the PDA will tell them which DPR route it belongs to and they'll be put into the correct cages ready for the DPR guys.
Then do the DPR guys scan them again to create a manifest? Additional items will be thrown out by the posties and some items to posties will be able to take for the driver.
Are the DPR routes "fixed" (same roads each day) or does the area covered by each DPR change every day?
kazardaimenu
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Re: New DPR method

Post by kazardaimenu »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 07:42
kazardaimenu wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 07:13
Hitcher wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 00:18
menditsa wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:43
All parcels that come into my DO are manually sorted into yorks for large parcels and half red expendable's for small items by walk number.
At this point they have not been scanned yet.
Under the new scheme large parcels will be scanned by the sorters, the PDA will tell them which DPR route it belongs to and they'll be put into the correct cages ready for the DPR guys.
Then do the DPR guys scan them again to create a manifest? Additional items will be thrown out by the posties and some items to posties will be able to take for the driver.
Are the DPR routes "fixed" (same roads each day) or does the area covered by each DPR change every day?
Fixed at our place. If there are too many parcels on the route the manager will try and find someone to clear the excess after a short exchange.
ted_e_bear
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Re: New DPR method

Post by ted_e_bear »

kazardaimenu wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 07:19
Ideally the rounds would be made smaller and one person would take everything for the area but that would be too efficient for RM.
Ah the good old days, yes you're correct I totally agree that would be the best way.
ted_e_bear
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Re: New DPR method

Post by ted_e_bear »

menditsa wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:43
Smoothbackground wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 16:52
With this new way, the idea is that the manifest is done in draft during the indoor sort, which is then sent in draft and accessed by you in Outdoor while still in draft, meaning (i) you then add and/or remove errant stray missorts; (ii) you reorder the stops; (iii) you number your parcels, load up, hit the road…
Excluding LATS for now.
All parcels that come into my DO are manually sorted into yorks for large parcels and half red expendable's for small items by walk number.
At this point they have not been scanned yet.
The people coming in at 11.00 until 14.00 (DPR Drivers) have never covered walks and have never been trained on sorting, they just scan everything from a york until 4 hours delivery time shows on the PDA. They have no clue about mis-sorts and the LM only cares that your route is 4 hours long.
Hence why we have 4 vans delivering in the same road at times :arrrghhh
I'm due to move to this 14.00 - 20.30 shift at the end of the month and know I'm going to have problems with this LM as he always brags "HIS" drivers can do 30/40 drops an hour. Yeah they can but they doorstep without ringing or knocking, never P739 if they leave safe or fail the delivery.
He has informed me I won't be covering the section area I know and have covered for the last 4 years. I'll be thrown on different areas everyday.
Doing the job properly I average between 15/20 drops per hour on area's I know very well (In Daylight)
Come the time when it get's dark at 16.00 I'd like to know what the CWU Health and Safety policy will be regarding doing your whole shift in darkness.
I'm pretty sure I read on here that the pda parcel delivery app can actually work to our advantage as it gives an accurate delivery time which is obviously good for us, sounds like you'll be off to a bad start surrounded by people who in typical traditional fashion are obsessed with beating the clock because they think they're better and faster than others, w*****s.
Hitcher
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Re: New DPR method

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kazardaimenu wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 07:13
Hitcher wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 00:18
menditsa wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:43
All parcels that come into my DO are manually sorted into yorks for large parcels and half red expendable's for small items by walk number.
At this point they have not been scanned yet.
Under the new scheme large parcels will be scanned by the sorters, the PDA will tell them which DPR route it belongs to and they'll be put into the correct cages ready for the DPR guys.
Then do the DPR guys scan them again to create a manifest? Additional items will be thrown out by the posties and some items to posties will be able to take for the driver.
No, I think it will be like you've scanned them yourself so you go straight to 'outdoor'. Obviously you still have to load them into yorks from the cages, etc.
And posties have been told they can no longer throw out items because they won't be on our PDAs and will be left for them to do when they get back.
Hitcher
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Re: New DPR method

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ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 09:06
I'm pretty sure I read on here that the pda parcel delivery app can actually work to our advantage as it gives an accurate delivery time which is obviously good for us, sounds like you'll be off to a bad start surrounded by people who in typical traditional fashion are obsessed with beating the clock because they think they're better and faster than others, w*****s.
I always work to the PDA times and use that to my advantage when I have too much.

Also, there's now an Estimated Delivery Window (EDW) for each item which will be messaged to the customer similar to DPR so rushing could backfire on people.
ted_e_bear
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Re: New DPR method

Post by ted_e_bear »

Hitcher wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 09:40
ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 09:06
I'm pretty sure I read on here that the pda parcel delivery app can actually work to our advantage as it gives an accurate delivery time which is obviously good for us, sounds like you'll be off to a bad start surrounded by people who in typical traditional fashion are obsessed with beating the clock because they think they're better and faster than others, w*****s.
I always work to the PDA times and use that to my advantage when I have too much.

Also, there's now an Estimated Delivery Window (EDW) for each item which will be messaged to the customer similar to DPR so rushing could backfire on people.
Good to know if/when that comes in at our place, the bit about EDW sounds like it's coming to get us in line with the other dedicated parcel delivery firms.
menditsa
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Re: New DPR method

Post by menditsa »

The routing does not allow for a 30 min unpaid break that some of us are forced to take. :whistle
Hitcher
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Re: New DPR method

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menditsa wrote:
20 Apr 2025, 10:58
The routing does not allow for a 30 min unpaid break that some of us are forced to take. :whistle
Not currently but under the new method I was told that we can add our break into the route.