The CWU Update on Facebook

[hans solo]

Anyone who works in delivery needs their head looked at if voting yes
This is total surrender from CWU

[Timetomoveon]

I could only manage 10 minutes of it. They are so out of touch with what all these changes will do to us.
They banging on about needing change. What happened to the no strings pay rise ?? What happened to "we no you dont want later start/finishing times?
This deal is a complete sell out
NO from me

Definitely looks like they’ve been got at. Was it the threat of stopping subs being taken from wages
18 f***ing pay and A/L lost for that!

[ted_e_bear]

Is it me or have they both put on weight since all this began and while we’ve been flogged for f***ing 6%

Perhaps we could suggest they, and Chris Webb plus that other guy Tony Bouch who just put a massive post on here all come down to work at a DO for a while, maybe even as new starters (hopefully no one will recognise them) I'm sure after a month or so being swapped about on different van share duties they'll see everything from a different perspective.

[Neebs]

If you have kids to pick up or other commitments you need to start looking for new work if this gets voted in ..they don't care and don't understand what local management are link .
Watched the whole thing .
they have no idea what posties are facing day in day out .
If and buts on start times
Still can't bring themselves to say statutory sick pay =£0 per day for the first 4 days .
I could go on but I need a rest .
Still voting no

[scotchy1962]

Looks like even the union have deserted us now.
They may hope they get their yes vote, as our plan B doesn't include any of them in it.
Piss poor effort i may add and not even a good defence of the indefensible agreement.
I will vote No and see what way it falls, i now have a rather morbid delight in the prospect of a no vote as i want to see the reaction of these three surrender monkeys as their world implodes.
Just like ours in delivery are with this agreement.

[ANDREW CROCOMBE]

Well interesting eh. So Royal Mail are going to cut revisions and employ thousands to achieve QOS and the USO with 100% clearance. All for probs around £1,000 at best and with a 3-4pm finish time ( for length of agreement) then it will be later again. Why with a 24/7 operation does everything have to be later. ? R.M are not well organised, well ran, or have any plans how to make this work. Get some proper Logistics folk to sort this sorry mob out once and for all.

[kazardaimenu]

These have no idea how the job is done. Full of bluster but no real explanation. Raising the point of ‘expanding the role of postal workers’ again, what’s this all about? Delivering into the evening? No thanks.

[POSTMAN]

'Apparently', Ward said this...

by voting yes for this agreement, it will allow us to fight in the future to change what is in the agreement.

new entrant T&C's are that bad Royal Mail will have to change them.

No doubt they will have the video snippets again in the next few days, will post than as they come.


Also 3.5k comments, 3k are peeps saying where they are from.

[TopperGas]

Prepared to give up 6 day uso now
Everything we stood against last year is being accepted
They have deffo been got at
Tell you what Dave why don’t you try a delivery

I'm shocked any union would approve an employer's move which will lead to 10K's of job losses, evening considering a joint approach to the Government!

[guardianangel]

Yes we need change but the members need better t's and c's and pay to make that change not worse,what planet are the CWU from,i wouldn't like to say what our fathers and grandfathers would of done to you.

[FilthyBloke]

It was poorly managed by the CWU from the word go.
Empty slogans and nothing more.
Royal Mail knew they had to ride out the storm and yet the storm never really came.

It was inevitable that RM and ST were not going to budge because in my opinion they knew that this CWU is as weak as it’s ever been. Not the members. But the union itself. They tried to tag along with the other news worthy strikes going on in the country at the time and seemed to spend most of their arguments insulting ST and going around in circles. It probably became too personal between dave ward and ST but ST had all the aces.

Once the empty slogans ran their course the union had no choice but to pretty much surrender. At first the union came out waving a feather duster and by the end it was a white flag.

I still think a two week strike in august and then October could, possibly, have had more of a grip than the pointless one and two day strikes. It would also have given the postie opportunity to find a temp job for that week or two as it’s easy to join an agency for a couple of weeks than it is for an odd day here and an odd day there.

But now the union seem pleased with their ‘victory’.
The postie has lost. It’s still an ok job to those who it suits but the job most of us know has gone. I don’t blame the union as such. They ain’t my union. I never thought they would win anyway. But their lack of understanding to the average postie who now has to look at child care issues or working longer in the heat or cold is actually insulting to those who pay subs.

[hans solo]

There s**t scared they have been told to get this deal through or RM will cut their CWU subsidies and the f***ers will be out working
George Orwell animal farm

[jahbalon]

The agitators on this forum who are spouting they are going to vote no, no matter what concessions and improvements the CWU attain, should do us all a favour and just quit the job if they are so unhappy.

The Silent Majority on here at sick to our back teeth hearing your ungrateful whining and complaining, and are just happy to have a job, pay increase and lump sum to get on with our lives and protecting our families futures and prospects.

Sabotaging our precious jobs and the Company is not Democracy, it's Communism

[Mickeybrowneyes]

If you have kids to pick up or other commitments you need to start looking for new work if this gets voted in ..they don't care and don't understand what local management are link .
Watched the whole thing .
they have no idea what posties are facing day in day out .
If and buts on start times
Still can't bring themselves to say statutory sick pay =£0 per day for the first 4 days .
I could go on but I need a rest .
Still voting no

They have served notice on the planes.
The work will arrive later. A No vote will not change that.
At least with a yes vote family friendly options can be explored and alternative attendance patterns.
It is too expensive to fly the work now and there is a capacity issue transporting parcels on planes now.
This will not change.
People that are voting no for this sole reason really need to grasp this fact.
We are starting later whatever the outcome.
Our sick policy is still better than most firms even with the changes.
Voting No is people's porogative but voting down an agreement for something that cannot be changed now is futile.

[FilthyBloke]

The agitators on this forum who are spouting they are going to vote no, no matter what concessions and improvements the CWU attain, should do us all a favour and just quit the job if they are so unhappy.

The Silent Majority on here at sick to our back teeth hearing your ungrateful whining and complaining, and are just happy to have a job, pay increase and lump sum to get on with our lives and protecting our families futures and prospects.

Sabotaging our precious jobs and the Company is not Democracy, it's Communism

Yep. For me it’s still an ideal job. Decent pay for what it is and still flexible enough.