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Working after strike days

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TopperGas
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by TopperGas »

We were told by our area union rep today that there literally millions of packets/parcels stuck in the system waiting to be sorted. Whilst we clearing the mail at the DO's there seems plenty of mail not reaching the DO's.
geordieboy123
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by geordieboy123 »

You wanna take a chill pill comrade
Wolf91
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by Wolf91 »

It’s not about a “backlog”.
RM lose contracts through strikes being carried out & the threat of further strike action - Simple as that.
Customers will not use Royal Mail if we are Striking, or they will do what they can to avoid it, especially in the busy period coming up.

Customers switching their business to competitors is hugely damaging for the business. Possibly permanently damaging.
ninja22
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by ninja22 »

If it means people can afford to strike for as long as we need to then I don't care if they're working their day off or doing some overtime. The most important thing is to not cross the picket lines.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by ted_e_bear »

Wolf91 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:26
It’s not about a “backlog”.
RM lose contracts through strikes being carried out & the threat of further strike action - Simple as that.
Customers will not use Royal Mail if we are Striking, or they will do what they can to avoid it, especially in the busy period coming up.

Customers switching their business to competitors is hugely damaging for the business. Possibly permanently damaging.
Absolutely and I'm disappointed that there's a new thread on here regarding someone who says they were called a scab for working overtime to recoup money despite striking, when the f**k is it going to sink in :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
Mickeybrowneyes
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by Mickeybrowneyes »

ninja22 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:38
If it means people can afford to strike for as long as we need to then I don't care if they're working their day off or doing some overtime. The most important thing is to not cross the picket lines.
Yeah totally agree.
Yes doing no overtime will hurt them more but rightly or wrongly I know allot of colleagues who need overtime to pay the bills and sort out their family.
Asking them to strike, as well as give up all their docket is quite strong especially in the cost of living crisis.
Basic wage is not enough anymore. That's why we are out so let them earn.
Bigger picture...
It's still causing massive delays and backlog.
And the rolling strikes will be carnage.
Otherwise these people would have to leave or cross the picket line, and we don't want that.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Kinda on the flip side, as long as RM are getting everything covered on OT, they won't have any need to either increase the hours of PT or move them to FT
olilew
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by olilew »

People keep mentioning a national overtime ban? They can't get enough people to take it up at ours!
"Just take it out and see how you go......."
Zicomurphy
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by Zicomurphy »

Wolf91 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:26
It’s not about a “backlog”.
RM lose contracts through strikes being carried out & the threat of further strike action - Simple as that.
Customers will not use Royal Mail if we are Striking, or they will do what they can to avoid it, especially in the busy period coming up.

Customers switching their business to competitors is hugely damaging for the business. Possibly permanently damaging.
I read this a lot on here. Aren’t the 2 things connected? Surely the bigger the backlog or the longer it’s taking for a parcel to reach its destination the more chance of a customer switching to a different carrier?
chickenwittle
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by chickenwittle »

Zicomurphy wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 20:11
Wolf91 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:26
It’s not about a “backlog”.
RM lose contracts through strikes being carried out & the threat of further strike action - Simple as that.
Customers will not use Royal Mail if we are Striking, or they will do what they can to avoid it, especially in the busy period coming up.

Customers switching their business to competitors is hugely damaging for the business. Possibly permanently damaging.
I read this a lot on here. Aren’t the 2 things connected? Surely the bigger the backlog or the longer it’s taking for a parcel to reach its destination the more chance of a customer switching to a different carrier?
If the union wanted to go down this route they should have voted for a work to rule/ overtime ban , they didn’t so it’s a non story as far as I’m concerned and I never do overtime.
world class male
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by world class male »

chickenwittle wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 20:48
Zicomurphy wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 20:11
Wolf91 wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 18:26
It’s not about a “backlog”.
RM lose contracts through strikes being carried out & the threat of further strike action - Simple as that.
Customers will not use Royal Mail if we are Striking, or they will do what they can to avoid it, especially in the busy period coming up.

Customers switching their business to competitors is hugely damaging for the business. Possibly permanently damaging.
I read this a lot on here. Aren’t the 2 things connected? Surely the bigger the backlog or the longer it’s taking for a parcel to reach its destination the more chance of a customer switching to a different carrier?
If the union wanted to go down this route they should have voted for a work to rule/ overtime ban , they didn’t so it’s a non story as far as I’m concerned and I never do overtime.
a workmate asked an area rep why they won't call an overtime ban, he said we have too many members already spending more than they earn so they won't go down that road, he also said to fill your pockets with any overtime available
i have always said an overtime ban would hit them more but i agree it's hard to police, especially if some go to other offices once all out on delivery
not even sure we could even have a legal postal ballot now we have already started disruption to the postal service, a court would throw it out in an instant if rm challenged it no doubt, especially if it was a close call of 60-40
guardianangel
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by guardianangel »

Turkeys and xmas,the reason i don't stand on the picket line with this lot,the days of real men mates and colleagues who stand with you through thick and thin is over,this lot would push you off a cliff for a penny.
aiden01
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by aiden01 »

guardianangel wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 21:17
Turkeys and xmas,the reason i don't stand on the picket line with this lot,the days of real men mates and colleagues who stand with you through thick and thin is over,this lot would push you off a cliff for a penny.
What lot rather they done ot than cross a picket line.
guardianangel
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by guardianangel »

You might as well cross the line,just my opinion call me old fashioned ,im near the end of my career ,where did it all go wrong.
LaggyBand
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Re: Working after strike days

Post by LaggyBand »

It’s better to have Royal Mail in a perceived “state of striking” for several weeks or even months on end rather than one week all out then people go back to work.

Simple as that.