After all this Lou, Aiden and Jabba the hutt also have to learn that goading people and using the result as part of their ammo is actually a pretty cheap shot and not really helping.
We need a moment of calm where the workforce stop fighting with itself.
I can’t speak for others but I’m not goading anyone, merely pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of some on here who banged on about ‘honour’ and ‘principles’ as they defended a no vote who are now showing absolutely none by accepting this ‘bribe’ they were so offended by. Not all were like this, but I’m afraid for some on here, the truth hurts.
As for a moment of calm - what about all the threads of people stamping their feet and rushing to leave the union? I wouldn’t class that as calm. A reduced Union membership will do far more damage than anything in this agreement long term, so you’re damn right I am going to keep posting and emphasising this.
Lou you don't really get it.
What other people do or say is immaterial, you are using that as a justification for throwing the vote result in their face, now i would call that goading and unhelpful.
They are not accepting any bribe, they are getting a pay increase and lump sum as part of a pay deal.
Voted in democratically, or is that not right.
It's up to people if they want to leave the union, it's not your place to tell anyone what to do, unless you think you are more important than what you are, in which case please stop.
A moment of calm would be nice and sensible when feelings are running high, even you must see that.
As per usual the wording in the letter is confusing. It says to qualify for ALL payments you must still be employed by the company on 4th August. It then says the exact amount for the £900 lump will be determined by how many people still work for the company on the actual date it’s paid, implying if you leave after 4th August but before 29th September you won’t get it. Poor wording as usual
As per usual the wording in the letter is confusing. It says to qualify for ALL payments you must still be employed by the company on 4th August. It then says the exact amount for the £900 lump will be determined by how many people still work for the company on the actual date it’s paid, implying if you leave after 4th August but before 29th September you won’t get it. Poor wording as usual
They probably mean the exact amount will be worked out by how many people work in the company divided into how much money is in the pot.
Depends how many leave in the meantime or start i guess. Maybe more, maybe less who knows but i guess less.
For all you YES people (turkey's) you voted for it now you're really going to pay for it, just wait for the real s__t to hit the fan then you will have real reason to moan , don't run off to the union you voted for it money grabbers.
As per usual the wording in the letter is confusing. It says to qualify for ALL payments you must still be employed by the company on 4th August. It then says the exact amount for the £900 lump will be determined by how many people still work for the company on the actual date it’s paid, implying if you leave after 4th August but before 29th September you won’t get it. Poor wording as usual
They probably mean the exact amount will be worked out by how many people work in the company divided into how much money is in the pot.
Depends how many leave in the meantime or start i guess. Maybe more, maybe less who knows but i guess less.
I’m retiring around 1st September so it’s not clear to me whether I’ll get both lump sums, just the 500, or neither.
For all you YES people (turkey's) you voted for it now you're really going to pay for it, just wait for the real s__t to hit the fan then you will have real reason to moan , don't run off to the union you voted for it money grabbers.
Then it’s a case of accept it or leave. There’s no in between. I’ve no doubt RM will want as many to leave as possible, so they don’t have to pay out over £14 per hour ( when you include delivery supplement) . That amount, according to the news is above the national average, albeit with a cut to t’s & c’s. When RM come for more cuts in April 2025 then I’m sure many more will leave. All part of their long term plan I guess.
Reading through the various comments i have decided a few things,
A lot of people are struggling with democracy, i voted NO, but the vote went yes, that's democracy for you.
I can live with the result and i suggest the rest of you do too, it ain't gonna change and all you are doing is stressing yourself.
After all this Lou, Aiden and Jabba the hutt also have to learn that goading people and using the result as part of their ammo is actually a pretty cheap shot and not really helping.
We need a moment of calm where the workforce stop fighting with itself and RM stop winding people up, but the chances of that are slim.
The union have been poor through the end of this dispute, perhaps they could get RM to take a few weeks off with their agenda to let the workers breath and digest what's happened.
And we are all entitled to the lump sum and payrise and we may dispose of it how we see fit, not how some of you think we should use it.
Who have i goaded maybe the no voters need to stop abusing people we all know who they are.
As per usual the wording in the letter is confusing. It says to qualify for ALL payments you must still be employed by the company on 4th August. It then says the exact amount for the £900 lump will be determined by how many people still work for the company on the actual date it’s paid, implying if you leave after 4th August but before 29th September you won’t get it. Poor wording as usual
They probably mean the exact amount will be worked out by how many people work in the company divided into how much money is in the pot.
Depends how many leave in the meantime or start i guess. Maybe more, maybe less who knows but i guess less.
For all you YES people (turkey's) you voted for it now you're really going to pay for it, just wait for the real s__t to hit the fan then you will have real reason to moan , don't run off to the union you voted for it money grabbers.
An who asked us to vote yes to the deal the very people i will ask help of if i need it.
Reading through the various comments i have decided a few things,
A lot of people are struggling with democracy, i voted NO, but the vote went yes, that's democracy for you.
I can live with the result and i suggest the rest of you do too, it ain't gonna change and all you are doing is stressing yourself.
After all this Lou, Aiden and Jabba the hutt also have to learn that goading people and using the result as part of their ammo is actually a pretty cheap shot and not really helping.
We need a moment of calm where the workforce stop fighting with itself and RM stop winding people up, but the chances of that are slim.
The union have been poor through the end of this dispute, perhaps they could get RM to take a few weeks off with their agenda to let the workers breath and digest what's happened.
And we are all entitled to the lump sum and payrise and we may dispose of it how we see fit, not how some of you think we should use it.
Who have i goaded maybe the no voters need to stop abusing people we all know who they are.
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Read some of your replies Lou, constantly bringing up the vote result and percentages in your replies.
Not goading at all.
After all this Lou, Aiden and Jabba the hutt also have to learn that goading people and using the result as part of their ammo is actually a pretty cheap shot and not really helping.
We need a moment of calm where the workforce stop fighting with itself.
I can’t speak for others but I’m not goading anyone, merely pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of some on here who banged on about ‘honour’ and ‘principles’ as they defended a no vote who are now showing absolutely none by accepting this ‘bribe’ they were so offended by. Not all were like this, but I’m afraid for some on here, the truth hurts.
As for a moment of calm - what about all the threads of people stamping their feet and rushing to leave the union? I wouldn’t class that as calm. A reduced Union membership will do far more damage than anything in this agreement long term, so you’re damn right I am going to keep posting and emphasising this.
Lou you don't really get it.
What other people do or say is immaterial, you are using that as a justification for throwing the vote result in their face, now i would call that goading and unhelpful.
They are not accepting any bribe, they are getting a pay increase and lump sum as part of a pay deal.
Voted in democratically, or is that not right.
It's up to people if they want to leave the union, it's not your place to tell anyone what to do, unless you think you are more important than what you are, in which case please stop.
A moment of calm would be nice and sensible when feelings are running high, even you must see that.
I voted NO as I can't willfully accept a reduction in sickness terms. That was my red line but I certainly won't be leaving the union. For all their faults we are still stronger together and at the very least we can cause a bigger obstacle when they come again week after next lol. The stronger the numbers the slower the inevitable ultimate surrender. Paid breaks delivery supplement are all on the line now big time. Let the next resistance be those atttrocities. It will happen but let's keep our livelihoods going a little longer not lose them sooner. Come on peeps. Get a new job now or hold out for a few more years. That's where we're at. Yes it's crisp but ide rather get a few more years out of this abhorrent company.