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TP and VESA: Text of Dave Ward on it page 2

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KnowItAll
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TP and VESA: Text of Dave Ward on it page 2

Post by KnowItAll »

We shouted long and loud accusing Si of chatting with Vesa, and it was flatly denied. Are we all just accepting of senior CWU officials doing it then? I'm confused. What on earth would the union have to gain from such talks?
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Post by broughts »

Who the hell can we trust DW was very sheepish with his explanation having already accusing si of the same
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Post by richietns »

It was explained the government is looking in to RM dealings with vesa and Terry had a shareholders meeting with them months ago,seems your looking for dirt that isn't there.
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Post by Foxel »

We are fighting for our livelihoods and all some people want to focus on is a meeting. Whatever happened at this meeting which has been explained makes no difference to our fight. Let RM worry about it, oh wait they won't since they arranged it. You'd almost think there were some snakes on this site.
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I'm supporting the cwu and strikes but why did he meet them though was it 3 times dw could have clarified this does seem suspicious though
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Post by derekm »

if there is a possibility of them taking the company over then why wouldn't the union want to speak to them ??
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Post by POSTPERSON50 »

It would have been appropriate to say to the members that the CWU have met with VESA and we can confirm that this is how we KNOW Royal Mail have been in contact with them.
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Post by toonshola »

This whole thing stinks. I’m not going to pretend to know what the CWU talked about with VESA but Dave Wards explanation yesterday was strange and he gave little detail about why they met or what was discussed. And Pullinger going on the sick at the moment this all comes out looks very bad.
Might be nothing but something isn’t right here and we need a proper explanation from the union.
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Post by Binsey »

toonshola wrote:
28 Sep 2022, 09:20
This whole thing stinks. I’m not going to pretend to know what the CWU talked about with VESA but Dave Wards explanation yesterday was strange and he gave little detail about why they met or what was discussed. And Pullinger going on the sick at the moment this all comes out looks very bad.
Might be nothing but something isn’t right here and we need a proper explanation from the union.
Indeed….

DW gave 3 different answers.
We need honesty and transparency from our elected officials.
Especially at the time we’re in.
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Just an explanation to members would be good seen as we will be losing 9 days pay
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Post by freespeech »

toonshola wrote:
28 Sep 2022, 09:20
This whole thing stinks. I’m not going to pretend to know what the CWU talked about with VESA but Dave Wards explanation yesterday was strange and he gave little detail about why they met or what was discussed. And Pullinger going on the sick at the moment this all comes out looks very bad.
Might be nothing but something isn’t right here and we need a proper explanation from the union.
....and DW said it was three meetings not just one.
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Post by Gasman11 »

Think its pretty obvious that the groundwork for a probable VESA takeover has been ongoing for a long time now and presumably the CWU are duty bound to have had some input into those talks. The whole process will be bound by confidentiality of course and so its not incumbent on the CWU to break that agreement. Looking as though Super Si has been a bit disingenuous again with his interpretation of events.
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Post by roman »

Maybe I’m naive but I assumed it was because the c w u wanted to find out what VESA’s intentions were so we could avoid a takeover bid.
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Post by clashcityrocker »

roman wrote:
28 Sep 2022, 13:14
Maybe I’m naive but I assumed it was because the c w u wanted to find out what VESA’s intentions were so we could avoid a takeover bid.
Possibly but why would Dave Ward have had to find out from the Chairman that these meetings had taken place?
Don't Terry and Dave talk much?
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Dave Ward said he accepted Terrys explanation for the meeting. Why didn't he already know? Genuine question btw.