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30 minute rule by management

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POSTMAN
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Re: 30 minute rule by management

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Where necessary, for example when traffic volumes are unexpectedly high or resourcing issues arise, individuals may be asked and may themselves request to vary their duty times by up to 30 minutes on a swings and roundabouts basis. Individual circumstances will be taken into account and total weekly contractual hours will not change. This means that individuals may flex their duty times by up to 30 minutes on any given day and this will be balanced either way over the next 5 working days. However this period can be extended by local agreement. A local record will be kept. Any requirement to change times of attendance or flex will take into account individual's personal obligations and responsibilities.
It doesn't have to be in the same week.
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Re: 30 minute rule by management

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2yearpostie wrote: ↑
05 Sep 2022, 15:16
Its being used at the moment as things are coming from the mail centre later and no point having people stood about with no work.
Might be down to the changes in arrival patterns. For stuff from some RDs they used to send an early lorry and a late lorry, which outside of Xmas pressure the total amount is probably no more than a full double stackers worth. Now they've axed the early ones with it all coming in on the late ones.

I think there's a strong chance of final dispatch times from MCs to DOs being made later sometime between now and the start of Xmas pressure
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Re: 30 minute rule by management

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SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
05 Sep 2022, 19:44
2yearpostie wrote: ↑
05 Sep 2022, 15:16
Its being used at the moment as things are coming from the mail centre later and no point having people stood about with no work.
Might be down to the changes in arrival patterns. For stuff from some RDs they used to send an early lorry and a late lorry, which outside of Xmas pressure the total amount is probably no more than a full double stackers worth. Now they've axed the early ones with it all coming in on the late ones.

I think there's a strong chance of final dispatch times from MCs to DOs being made later sometime between now and the start of Xmas pressure
It’s like listening to a parrot. You could have just said it outright, no need for the paragraph lead up. We all knew where you were going with that one from the first word :roll:
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Re: 30 minute rule by management

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As has been mentioned, you have prior plans right after your finishing time which can't be changed :wink:
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Re: 30 minute rule by management

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Or just say no; it gives you the ability to agree, it doesn’t compel you to do so.
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Re: 30 minute rule by management

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DirtyHarry wrote: ↑
05 Sep 2022, 04:34
Idiot DOMs can do what they like.

But, you will always have only 7.5 hours in your working day, so if the morons insist on giving you 8, 9, 10.5 hours work, you still won't be able to complete, etc, etc, etc.

The only motivation for messing with people's start and finishing times, is spite and malice on the part of management.
Nothing more, nothing less.
You forgot the main reason incompetence and the ability to actually manage workloads and staffing
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Re: 30 minute rule by management

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denhamhoop wrote: ↑
07 Sep 2022, 14:44
DirtyHarry wrote: ↑
05 Sep 2022, 04:34
Idiot DOMs can do what they like.

But, you will always have only 7.5 hours in your working day, so if the morons insist on giving you 8, 9, 10.5 hours work, you still won't be able to complete, etc, etc, etc.

The only motivation for messing with people's start and finishing times, is spite and malice on the part of management.
Nothing more, nothing less.
You forgot the main reason incompetence and the ability to actually manage workloads and staffing
That, too. :thumbup
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Re: 30 minute rule by management

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fluxburner wrote: ↑
03 Sep 2022, 16:52
I remember reading the paragraph about this in the agreement about 11 years ago now. Management can ask you to do it, but you are under no obligation to say yes.
I recall it being used a few times, but once peeps realised the 30 mins you got back (sometime during the same week) was not taken off the end of the day, but taken off the beginning, which resulted in getting out 30 mins later because nobody prepped the walk... It died a death.
Get out 30 min late..... leave 30 mins you can't complete next day. No worries.