Is your office picketing ?

[Woody Guthrie]

No-one becomes more conservative with age, you are who you are.

Scientific study disagrees with you.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 9413000875

[ Conclusion
Ageing makes people more likely to vote Conservative. The question of whether future Conservative support is threatened by generational replacement can therefore be answered with some confidence in the negative. Newer generations are not less Conservative than older generations once ageing effects are controlled for using side information taken from the panel studies

Everyone under the age of 50-60ish lives on a different planet to all that.

Everyone in the age group of 50-60ish left school during the Thatcher years, the years of 10% unemployment, double digit inflation and interest rates, de-industrialisation and miner's strikes, the early 80s economic crisis, the fuel crisis and power cuts, the winter of discontent, the Poll Tax riots.

Those people are Gen X.

You're thinking of Boomers.
Most of those are in their late 70s and 80s now...or dead.

[Tman]

Everyone under the age of 50-60ish lives on a different planet to all that. It's pensioners vs the rest of us.

Pensioners. it's well known that people become more consevative and risk averse as they get older, less tolerant of anything that might change the status quo and more protective of their lifestyle.

Alternatively having lived through the 1970s where the inflationary spiral was fuelled by every tw*t sticking in a ludicrous pay rise twice a year, they could be wary of it happening again.
10% inflation or interest rates doesn't help borrowers, savers, house buyers or anyone else.

[Acca Dacca]

Everyone under the age of 50-60ish lives on a different planet to all that. It's pensioners vs the rest of us.

Pensioners. it's well known that people become more consevative and risk averse as they get older, less tolerant of anything that might change the status quo and more protective of their lifestyle.

Alternatively having lived through the 1970s where the inflationary spiral was fuelled by every tw*t sticking in a ludicrous pay rise twice a year, they could be wary of it happening again.
10% inflation or interest rates doesn't help borrowers, savers, house buyers or anyone else.

Does it kill you inside that you are a postman whilst being a Tory?

[Woody Guthrie]

Alternatively having lived through the 1970s where the inflationary spiral was fuelled by every tw*t sticking in a ludicrous pay rise twice a year, they could be wary of it happening again.

Then they're stupid because that simplistic Daily Mail economic theory could land us in even deeper s**t.

The Oil Crisis was the biggest driver of inflation throughout most of the seventies and the fact that wages couldn't possibly keep up sent us spiraling into a recession, stagflation and high unemployment.

As has been pointed out in a very simple way to understand if people don't have disposable income nobody buys anything and companies go bust.

That is especially true in a country that has a far larger service sector to manufacturing sector ratio than it ever had in the 70s.

There are also far fewer major employers in the UK than there were in the 70s so wage increases have a much smaller impact than something like the imminent increases in fuel bills or the increasing cost of basic essentials.

Workers are an easy target but they are not the root cause and a dangerous distraction to anyone who really genuinely wants to avoid the lights going off as opposed to just having someone to blame when they do.

[Ali831]

When this is over how about those that didn't strike don't reap any of the gains. So they only get the 2%, have the annualised hours, different start times and of course now have to work sundays.
Everyone else that sacrificed their pay and went on strike get the gains which of course will be 10% payrise, same hours, no sundays and no annualised hours and for good measure a bonus from the union as a thank you for our support ...yeah right, wishful thinking

[sequinn]

You still needed an education to get a job and houses weren’t cheap in comparison to wages. Interest rate was 15% for our mortgage, much higher than now.

[heapsy]

Have to say if you don't strike you better get ready to spend the next 20 years with your mouth shut because you've just lost the right to complain about anything.

No moaning about workload or being out in the sun too long or the pay being crap or agency staff taking all your overtime or managers bullying you or no sick pay or how you've got a dodgy knee now and nobody gives a s**t, no moaning about how you keep getting bumped off your duty or how your little office is closing now and you're getting pumped to an industrial estate with another three offices or how your favourite aunt just died and they won't give you the funeral off or how you can't get any days off at all and your summer holidays are in March.

That's the decision you make when you undermine the collective bargaining position, you decide to accept everything, all of it, all the s**t that flows your way.

It's your choice but after you do nobody is listening to your whining anymore.

Well said. Got one in our office, a very senior member of staff. Never gone on strike while I've been there. Came out the other day with " I can't afford to strike". And they haven't even got kids.

[Dorset Plodder]

Don’t get your coat mate your posts are the nicest on the eyes to read

Cheers LaggyBand!

Sometimes it's very hard to get what you're trying to say across. It's not always successful. I don't take it personally. RMC is after all a Discussion Forum, and I think the majority of us get a lot of relevant information from it ... plus a few Wacky opinions!

[Dorset Plodder]

When this is over how about those that didn't strike don't reap any of the gains. So they only get the 2%, have the annualised hours, different start times and of course now have to work sundays.
Everyone else that sacrificed their pay and went on strike get the gains which of course will be 10% payrise, same hours, no sundays and no annualised hours and for good measure a bonus from the union as a thank you for our support ...yeah right, wishful thinking[/color]

Wishful Thinking indeed Ali!

It would solve the problem of choosing which members of staff they put on the Sunday Rota and which ones will be doing OT for FREE at Christmas wouldn't it?

Unfortunately all those Strike Breakers will benefit from the Finacial Sacrifices of their colleagues.

[Acca Dacca]

Don’t get your coat mate your posts are the nicest on the eyes to read

Cheers LaggyBand!

Sometimes it's very hard to get what you're trying to say across. It's not always successful. I don't take it personally. RMC is after all a Discussion Forum, and I think the majority of us get a lot of relevant information from it ... plus a few Wacky opinions!

Nah you were just talking tosh tbh I knew exactly what you meant

[mjd24]

You still needed an education to get a job and houses weren’t cheap in comparison to wages. Interest rate was 15% for our mortgage, much higher than now.

How much was the house in comparison to your salary?