IPS training

[hujkl]

I started at RM in summer 2004. I've never been trained on the IPS (along with everybody else in the office who started at the same time or since). My manager asks me to go on the sorting every day. I have it out with him nearly every day. Am I within my rights to refuse to go on it? How can I be expected to do something I've never been trained to do? As I understand it, before I started you learnt the IPS for something like two months solid when you started, and if you didn't pass the sorting test you didn't get the job. I got 2 days training before I was put on a walk.

[phantomshare]

if your on 40 hours you should be on the the sorting, unless you perform any peripheral duty.

[hujkl]

Even if I've never been trained on it?

[BELIAL]

Stick a letter in a box ,no one gives a s**t anymore

[Stormproof]

I don't think anyone is 'trained' on IPS, you just learn it as you go.

[hujkl]

Stick a letter in a box ,no one gives a s**t anymore

That is what I thought.

[DGP1]

As far as I'm concerned RM doesn't do training anymore

[Thorby Bislam]

That's about right. I got three days training.

IPS isn't that hard, Stop arguing and just do it. OF course you will be slow at first as you will be looking up at the opal for every letter but gradually you will get quicker.
As for meeting the test standard, Ha Ha Ha. Very few people work at that rate. The sort rate is supposed to be tested regularly but in practise it doesn't get done. You'll be lucky if your office gets tested even once a year. Or unlucky, depends how you feel about it.
Out in the real world, people will sort real fast whilst being tested in order to pass, but in everyday life, they work at a rate comfortable to them.
Unless they are really slow, the managers wont bother them. Managers just want people on IPS without argument..

[hujkl]

IPS isn't that hard.

Even with 400 odd streets?

[DGP1]

That's about right. I got three days training.

IPS isn't that hard, Stop arguing and just do it. OF course you will be slow at first as you will be looking up at the opal for every letter but gradually you will get quicker.
As for meeting the test standard, Ha Ha Ha. Very few people work at that rate. The sort rate is supposed to be tested regularly but in practise it doesn't get done. You'll be lucky if your office gets tested even once a year. Or unlucky, depends how you feel about it.
Out in the real world, people will sort real fast whilst being tested in order to pass, but in everyday life, they work at a rate comfortable to them.
Unless they are really slow, the managers wont bother them. Managers just want people on IPS without argument..

5 years and only been tested (for accuracy) once

[DGP1]

IPS isn't that hard.

Even with 400 odd streets?

Yes you only have to look at the overheads if you're not sure. FT contracts will always have an IPS element unless it is a rural that is too heavy.

[BELIAL]

IPS isn't that hard.

Even with 400 odd streets?

Don't let it get your goat,hujkl,guys 40yrs+ stillsorting to mid 70's frames,call it force of habit.Do's enduring restructure and repick every year to achieve 5% cost cutting ,efficiency ain't gonna be what it used to be. They don't like it, and can't admit it, but the old stagers are as much at sea as the rest of us. Any doubts ,count how many specials your PHG mis allocates per month

[DGP1]

IPS isn't that hard.

Even with 400 odd streets?

Don't let it get your goat,hujkl,guys 40yrs+ stillsorting to mid 70's frames,call it force of habit.Do's enduring restructure and repick every year to achieve 5% cost cutting ,efficiency ain't gonna be what it used to be. They don't like it, and can't admit it, but the old stagers are as much at sea as the rest of us. Any doubts ,count how many specials your PHG mis allocates per month

What you mean is per day

[BELIAL]

IPS isn't that hard.

Even with 400 odd streets?

Don't let it get your goat,hujkl,guys 40yrs+ stillsorting to mid 70's frames,call it force of habit.Do's enduring restructure and repick every year to achieve 5% cost cutting ,efficiency ain't gonna be what it used to be. They don't like it, and can't admit it, but the old stagers are as much at sea as the rest of us. Any doubts ,count how many specials your PHG mis allocates per month

What you mean is per day

Iwas using dramatic understatement to counteract DvBuk's accusations of hysteria.But lol the fossils are f.f.f.fazed

[TrueBlueTerrier]

IPS isn't that hard.

Even with 400 odd streets?

Thats not many our opal is 5 sheets with 125 streets on each = 600. Even after 4 years IPS sorting I still have to look for some roads everyday - sometimes the same ones every day.

If every other 40hr contract postie is sorting on IPS, and its in the work plan, and finally unless there is an agreement from the CWU that your duty is exempt it is after all only fair that you do the same job as everyone else after all you are getting the same basic pay. .


I always thought 1 thing that was daft was when IPS was maxed out and all full timers had done their time and are back throwing up their walks, you would see PTs twiddling their thumbs waiting for the missort run, I know it may upset some but why cant they pitch in and sort. If this was agreed by the Union with safeguards of course, it may stop the rampant practice of PTs coming early, which is the main reason they are twiddling. Comment or thoughts