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Unagreed Revsisions?

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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

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GavChurch77 wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:14
This union needs to get its head out of its arse and get the strike dates out, stop wasting time and bloody get on with it. All this waiting for talks the company can’t be trusted been proven time and time again
Their hands are tied as the first ballot was about pay alone. They've got to wait for a yes vote in the second ballot
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:18
GavChurch77 wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:14
This union needs to get its head out of its arse and get the strike dates out, stop wasting time and bloody get on with it. All this waiting for talks the company can’t be trusted been proven time and time again
Their hands are tied as the first ballot was about pay alone. They've got to wait for a yes vote in the second ballot
Why wont the union announce dates for the first ballot . Terry and Dave are praying Royal mail counter with a better offer . So they dont actually have to do their jobs and arrange strike dates. The union is constantly out manouvered by royal mail. This s t is getting embarrassing
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

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darkgable wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:18
GavChurch77 wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:14
This union needs to get its head out of its arse and get the strike dates out, stop wasting time and bloody get on with it. All this waiting for talks the company can’t be trusted been proven time and time again
Their hands are tied as the first ballot was about pay alone. They've got to wait for a yes vote in the second ballot
Why wont the union announce dates for the first ballot . Terry and Dave are praying Royal mail counter with a better offer . So they dont actually have to do their jobs and arrange strike dates. The union is constantly out manouvered by royal mail. This s t is getting embarrassing
They probably don't to take any risks of announcing strike dates based on the first ballot compromising the second ballot in any way that RM could use to get it thrown out
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

Post by toonshola »

Give notice for industrial action tomorrow morning. No more mucking about. Royal Mail are in full flow and are starting to implement the changes as they see fit. I honestly think it’s too late now anyway and we have all lost big time but it’s the only slight chance we have left.
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

Post by Woody Guthrie »

This has gone way beyond pay and even way beyond the changes they have proposed.

It appears Simon has decided to go all in without any attempt to negotiate an agreement and change the business in any way he sees fit.

It looks very like we're going to be fighting for everything.

Not just pay or change but your basic terms and conditions, even your contract itself.

s**t or bust?
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:18
GavChurch77 wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:14
This union needs to get its head out of its arse and get the strike dates out, stop wasting time and bloody get on with it. All this waiting for talks the company can’t be trusted been proven time and time again
Their hands are tied as the first ballot was about pay alone. They've got to wait for a yes vote in the second ballot
Not according to martin walsh he cleary stated a week or two ago that union would be ready to announce strike action on 3rd august. so whats the delay is there talks going on i doubt it with some of rm's statements of last few days.
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

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aiden01 wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 21:08
SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:18
GavChurch77 wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:14
This union needs to get its head out of its arse and get the strike dates out, stop wasting time and bloody get on with it. All this waiting for talks the company can’t be trusted been proven time and time again
Their hands are tied as the first ballot was about pay alone. They've got to wait for a yes vote in the second ballot
Not according to martin walsh he cleary stated a week or two ago that union would be ready to announce strike action on 3rd august. so whats the delay is there talks going on i doubt it with some of rm's statements of last few days.
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

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Cheers postman :thumbup
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

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Lets just hope we don't have 1 day strike here and 1 day there ,it will have no effect,we need to hit them hard from the start,get a long backlog going and then go to 1 day here and there,and please please cwu members do not do overtime to clear it or what really is the point you might as well bend over and let them take your dignity.
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

Post by Weetrogg2 »

Totally agree with Woody, Thompson and McPherson have decided to bet everything on breaking the CWU and ripping to pieces all the national agreements that we have.

It’s a fight to the finish, either then win and everything changes to our detriment or we win and these individuals will be forced out.

My own personal opinion is that if they get their way we will become part of the gig economy, this is no longer about change’s to the pipeline or parcel hubs or any other operational issues, this is about removing employees rights by way of destroying our only form of protection - the CWU.

Time to stand up and fight. Nothing to lose but everything to gain ✊✊✊
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

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guardianangel wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 21:56
Lets just hope we don't have 1 day strike here and 1 day there ,it will have no effect,we need to hit them hard from the start,get a long backlog going and then go to 1 day here and there,and please please cwu members do not do overtime to clear it or what really is the point you might as well bend over and let them take your dignity.
You say don't do overtime to clear I bet at our office people will still go in up to 90 minutes early to clear unpaid
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

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POSTMAN wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 21:18
aiden01 wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 21:08
SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:18
GavChurch77 wrote:
03 Aug 2022, 20:14
This union needs to get its head out of its arse and get the strike dates out, stop wasting time and bloody get on with it. All this waiting for talks the company can’t be trusted been proven time and time again
Their hands are tied as the first ballot was about pay alone. They've got to wait for a yes vote in the second ballot
Not according to martin walsh he cleary stated a week or two ago that union would be ready to announce strike action on 3rd august. so whats the delay is there talks going on i doubt it with some of rm's statements of last few days.
Will be next Tuesday
Why FFS?

Surely the union has to give a minimum of 14 days notice - not exactly 14 days. Just announce the strike weeks now.
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

Post by Woody Guthrie »

Why FFS?
The union cannot react as quickly as Royal Mail.
Despite what it looks like sometimes It's not a business with a couple of guys at the top making all the decisions.
There has to be a meeting of the PEC.
There has to be an endorsement of the decision.
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

Post by Duesouth »

All the union reps can do right now is put in a disagreement before royal mail implement changes across the board.

Nothing has been agreed at a national level and by the sounds of everything that's been going behind closed doors they want change fast. Yes some things need to change but at the speed that everything is going we either need an agreement that suits both us and them or all I can see is weeks even months leading up to xmas of strikes.

Things are not looking pretty, as it was announced last week my office wants a revision done by the end of September. Everyone needs to stand there ground and not do overtime, just work to rule.
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Re: Unagreed Revsisions?

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Duesouth wrote:
04 Aug 2022, 11:17
Everyone needs to stand there ground and not do overtime, just work to rule.
Trouble is I'm not sure if that could be construed by RM as being unofficial industrial action