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RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

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Acca Dacca
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by Acca Dacca »

If he thought we should be delivering in the dark should the subtitles not read 'its not so extreme to say you CAN deliver in the dark'?

or 'its too extreme to say you cant deliver in the dark'
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by k979aaa »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:56
2yearpostie wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 10:53
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 08:56
2yearpostie wrote:
21 Jul 2022, 06:50
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Jul 2022, 21:22
My gut feeling is that the later starts will happen anyway due to the savings RM would make with shift allowances
You do realise that the mail centre shifts will move back as well as you wont have anything to process...
EVERYONES shifts would move back in RDCs, MCs and DOs
Then why are you cheerleading for it and willing it to happen?
I'm just being realistic about it. It's going to happen at some point and there's nothing that any of us will be able to do about it
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by postslippete »

TopperGas wrote:
24 Jul 2022, 11:13


Thinking about it this will surely one of the changes conceded by RM, as working in the dark from a safety angle seems unworkable, physical attacks, slipping on ice, dog attacks etc, apart from delivering parcels in a van. I can't think of one job apart from the police who walk the streets, & lanes, at night.

True. But you don't usually see one copper wandering around the streets at night. They always walk round in pairs and have plenty of backup should they require it.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by kazardaimenu »

This was the most egregious letter I've had through my door since TV licencing. If someone orders something online they don't need me to be working til 6pm the next day to deliver it. Zero summer lapsing but more apparently more annual leave during that period, working 10-6 in the winter... Thompson does not live in the real world.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by TopperGas »

kazardaimenu wrote:
30 Jul 2022, 18:15
This was the most egregious letter I've had through my door since TV licencing. If someone orders something online they don't need me to be working til 6pm the next day to deliver it. Zero summer lapsing but more apparently more annual leave during that period, working 10-6 in the winter... Thompson does not live in the real world.
But if we don't work those hours we'll become the next Woolies/Kodak, although I'm sure neither co. failed due to staffing issues!!
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by 2yearpostie »

I dont get the working between 32-44 hours bit. Most of the staff are 25 hours now so will they have to work longer summer and winter through increased contracts?
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by BenacreNick »

What are the 32 allowances, referred to in the yellow letter please ?

And why do half the team get them and half the team do not ?

I have 6x SA's early in the morning, is this included ?

Thanks for your help.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

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Also, it seems to me to be quite a giant leap to go from working 1 in 40 Sunday's now, to working 1 in 4 Sunday's in the future ?

Or is it just me ?
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by 2yearpostie »

BenacreNick wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 10:44
What are the 32 allowances, referred to in the yellow letter please ?

And why do half the team get them and half the team do not ?

I have 6x SA's early in the morning, is this included ?

Thanks for your help.
Grandad rights, the allowances that exsisted pre 2014 did not apply to starters after that date.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

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Thanks 2yrpostie, but I still don't really know what they are ?

I started in 2005.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by TopperGas »

2yearpostie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 11:30
BenacreNick wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 10:44
What are the 32 allowances, referred to in the yellow letter please ?

And why do half the team get them and half the team do not ?

I have 6x SA's early in the morning, is this included ?

Thanks for your help.
Grandad rights, the allowances that exsisted pre 2014 did not apply to starters after that date.
I assume every OPG gets the Delivery Allowance, If that''s the case, given surely we're the bulk of RM employees then it does make you wonder if only 45% of the team get paid allowances?
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by SpacePhoenix »

TopperGas wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 19:50
2yearpostie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 11:30
BenacreNick wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 10:44
What are the 32 allowances, referred to in the yellow letter please ?

And why do half the team get them and half the team do not ?

I have 6x SA's early in the morning, is this included ?

Thanks for your help.
Grandad rights, the allowances that exsisted pre 2014 did not apply to starters after that date.
I assume every OPG gets the Delivery Allowance, If that''s the case, given surely we're the bulk of RM employees then it does make you wonder if only 45% of the team get paid allowances?
DO staff get a Delivery Supplement, MC staff (Processing) get a Processing Supplement, I'd assume that Distribution staff get their own equivalent
supplement
Acca Dacca
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by Acca Dacca »

The delivery supplement is NOT part of any group of allowances they want to get rid of
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

Post by wowiezowie »

I work in a mail centre and we've been informed that they're trying to take away our shift allowance for working lates/nights/weekends. This would make a big difference to our wage packets.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

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wowiezowie wrote:
01 Aug 2022, 01:27
I work in a mail centre and we've been informed that they're trying to take away our shift allowance for working lates/nights/weekends. This would make a big difference to our wage packets.
if that were to happen I wonder how many staff on night shifts will look to move to early and late shifts